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not so skoe.  According to the Iraqi transcript of the April Glaspie interview with Tariq Aziz in 1990, Tariq Aziz told her that Iraq was going to attend a peace conference with Kuwait in Egypt, and that no decision for war would be made until after that conference.  Glaspie praised him for that and said she would return immediately to Washington to inform the Administration.  She then said the US had no interest in the  Iraq-Kuwait dispute and wanted good relations with Iraq.  But this was in the context of a pending brokered settlement, not a pending war.

In fact the Cairo conference was called off and Saddam invaded Kuwait, staging a fake coup as a coverup.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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and furthermore for you to not like my country and me to not even know your country or even careless about it is just strange to me ...

just on that comment, most people on a global scale will know america. You are big, you are powerful, you are influential and are being watched by many. At the same time you are arrogant, look down on others and believe you are the future.

thats why so many people don't like america, just because you don't know other countries what does that have to do with anythign? just because they don't make a ton of movies about themselves. IF they you haven't heard of a country its probably for good reason, maybe because they aren't impacting a ton of other countries.

I am canadian And i like americans. I do however think on the whole canadians are much more enjoyable, sociable and relaxed people.

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http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wmv/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/tv_archives/ArmyChorus.asx

I am not sure but the Pope has a "wtf" look on his face...

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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@Supall

close... I live in a little country 80km south of finland over the sea called Estonia. We speak a language very similar to finnish we have the same culture, History etc...

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I only dislike the American working class and super rich.

The upper middle class are civilized, hard working, and noble people. We are educated, rational, independent and conceptual thinkers, and work professional jobs or own small businesses.

The working class is zealously religious, stupid, envious of my class's wealth, and outright irrational. For example, they get married between 18-23 and pop out kids like crazy. Then they don't get married and we're left with single moms. WTF?

The upper class is also zealously religious, disloyal to the state, consumes conspicuously, and tries to raise taxes on the upper middle class while paying nothing themselves. Their involvement in politics thanks to their powerful lobbies is the greatest threat to our empire.

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@Lyvidian..... a new boob on the forum ? 

Black Wing is a nice guy, who chews up leftist ideals for breakfast, and shits them out before he goes to sleep.

As to ISRAEL FORMATION....rofl.... Its revisionist history.  They teach that in school now.  Next to "Marx, the great Philosopher"

Iran pointing a Nuke = The USA pointing a nuke.
When an ass of a human being makes a comparison like that, you know the future of the world is in trouble.

Here is the best of the best:

"Iraq asked the U.S. if they were going to intervene. The U.S. said no, go right ahead 'ol buddy -- mostly because of Kuwaits lack of relevance coupled with the fact that it was a generally soviet-leaning state."

You really do attend some ass backwards school or your ability to research is limited to links on the Soros or Huffington blog.

>>>"Iraq, afterall, could disreguard these rules, They were in black Market deals w/
RUSSIA and FRANCE anyway......they were protected."
You forgot their biggest supporter, the U.S.
Also note the difference between Russia and the USSR please.<<<

US biggest supporter ??  What are you writing about ?
RUSSIA/FRANCE difference ?  There was none, both were in black market oil deals, both are on the UN security council.  Both w/China block US/UK votes......where a 4 vote can at least force China to abstain.


>>>"I also support taking out IRAN when the time comes."
As do i support the destruction of the America, when the time comes. Hopefully that time will never come, and silly deluded peoples like you can keep on living in a dream of ignorance .<<<<

Ahhh,....there it is.  Im silly, and you are so enlightened and brilliant in your made up world of supporting despots and crazed Islamic Republics, bent on destruction of the world.

Yet, the US is evil.

When you wake up and go to sleep every day, do you ever wonder how the world got to where it is today ??  Where people have the rights and ability to say and do as they please, free of persecution.  Free of Govt. control of your life.

The US w/its constitution set these rights of man to the central theme of a Govt. by the people.
No Kings, no Emperors.
Europe followed......eventually....after a few world wars.

History is yours to do what you want w/it. 
If it is twisted around, as its taught to you, then hopfully you can figure it out one day.
If it is YOU who wish to believe the bullshit you write......then so be it.

Enjoy your self constructed hateful world of lies and distortions.
One day your wish may come true.........
But, who is it that will run that world order of yours, and who will check THEIR power ?

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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"Enjoy your self constructed hateful world of lies and distortions."

pot kettle black etc etc

and no I am just trolling you old boobs so keep posting your full page replies to keep me entertained.

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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"The upper middle class are civilized, hard working, and noble people. We are educated, rational, independent and conceptual thinkers, and work professional jobs or own small businesses."

I agree with that, to an extent.


"RUSSIA/FRANCE difference ?  There was none, both were in black market oil deals, both are on the UN security council.  Both w/China block US/UK votes..."

US had outright deals with Iraq, including the giving of money/weapons, selling weapons on credit, and simply loaning money.


"The US w/its constitution set these rights of man to the central theme of a Govt. by the people."

And the US is just as corrupt as any monarchy. But a government by the people? Sounds like a milestone on the path to communism to me...silly commie tongue.

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@ Lyvidian,

full page, of pasted notes......  Im glad your entertained and getting an education as well.


@ Skoe

Im wondering, are you mixing in the 1980s with the 2000's ,  and trying to make a point ?

As well, and as I suspected,  You have no clue of what America is.

Govt. by the people = Communism ?
US nukes = Iran nukes ?

Yeaaa....you are clueless.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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Yeah, but my points are generally lost tongue.

> Govt. by the people = Communism ?
> US nukes = Iran nukes ?

> Yeaaa....you are clueless.

What the the buggery are you rambling about now?

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
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dark wing.. all your comments can be ignored on the basis that any country that is stupid enough to sell its enemies guns (that are then used to kill its own men) has some serious issues wink


You have an extreme prejudice aginst iran etc for the 'islamic extremists' the sad part is that the 'extremists' are just a small part of the population. the majority of them are people with higher moral standing then most other people.

While you are so intent on hating their religion, just remember that the founding religion behind america went on a crusade and killed far more people then have been the vitims of 'terrorism'

The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut

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> Black_Wing wrote:

> @ Lyvidian,

>full page, of pasted notes......  Im glad your entertained and getting an education as well.



you sure need one yourself

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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@ Blizzard,

From what research I have, AK-47s and RPGs are old Soviet, new Chicom weaps.

You are another, who see Iran as a victim, and the USA as the evil ones.
the "Extremists" are in power in Iran. 

They fund terrorist orgs., do you agree or disagree ?

I dont hate religions of any type. 
And, I see your point.  The Evil Christian armies went into the middle east to attack the defenceless peace loving peoples who were converts to  the Profit Muhammad's new religion.  The last one being what.....700 years ago ?
yea....


@Lyvidian,  grow up.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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@black_wing

rage up son

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

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> Blizzard wrote:

> dark wing.. all your comments can be ignored on the basis that any country that is stupid enough to sell its enemies guns (that are then used to kill its own men) has some serious issues wink >>
America's issue is it's too soft, like when the Shah was deposed.


>> You have an extreme prejudice aginst iran etc for the 'islamic extremists' the sad part is that the 'extremists' are just a small part of the population. the majority of them are people with higher moral standing then most other people. >>
Most muslims are extremists. Maybe not willing to be suicide bombers themselves, but the majority are sympathetic to their cause. The exception is the upper class, who actually take an interest in long gone civilized men of their past like Avicenna. They uphold to values like reason and learning.

<<While you are so intent on hating their religion, just remember that the founding religion behind america went on a crusade and killed far more people then have been the vitims of 'terrorism'>>
With that logic, Atheists like Stalin have committed the most atrocities.

The problem with non-upper class muslims is they are zealous toward a religious interpretation that has been corrupted by a barbaric nomadic culture and clerical/political authorities with zealous anti-west sentiments.

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@pvp

Ah.  When was Estonia formed?  Like I've said earlier, Eastern Europe throws me out of sync because of how often it seems that the countries change their borders...especially in the Balkans.

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> [RPA]Sir SupAll wrote:

> @pvp

Ah.  When was Estonia formed?  Like I've said earlier, Eastern Europe throws me out of sync because of how often it seems that the countries change their borders...especially in the Balkans. >>

They do that because the Austrian Empire could not utilize nationalism to unify the people under one national identity. The French and Germans could do it, but Austria could not because of separate nationalist movements taking place. Every ethnic group wanted independence and their own state, and as a consequence Austria could not unify their empire with nationalism because if it tried it would only fuel secessionist movements.

So today we have people of different cultural identities competing for land and power and viewing each other as different.

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@Black_Wing:
> You are another, who see Iran as a victim, and the USA as the evil ones.
> ****the "Extremists" are in power in Iran****.
Exactly!!

Just like in America. I hope for a day when neither exists as they are now.


@Justinian I
> "Most muslims are extremists. Maybe not willing to be suicide bombers themselves, but the majority are sympathetic to their cause."

Erm, you sir...are an idiot tongue. Not only are you absolutely wrong, but (as a simple example) Iran denounces the use of sucide bombers. If you cannot realise that Islam isn't evil, and that most Muslims are not as evil as you are saying here, you have no right to comment...on anything.

This exact 'theory' of yours is a waste of everyones time, and is exactly why America is hated.


> "With that logic, Atheists like Stalin have committed the most atrocities."

Atheism isn't a religion silly.


> "The problem with non-upper class muslims is they are zealous toward a religious interpretation that has been corrupted by a barbaric nomadic culture and clerical/political authorities with zealous anti-west sentiments."

The problem with the younger upper class is that they are born out of daddys wallet...and have absolutely no idea how to think for themselves. You obviously have never met a Muslim. If you were born elsewhere, you would be dirt-poor and unable to conjure up such thoughts.

Daddy's provided Elitism ftL

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ty skoe, a real muslim basically grows up, prays, respects other people, doesnt drink alcohol etc.... you ask any muslim and they will tell you that the 'extremists' are not true muslims as one of their core teachings is basically do not kill other people


Black Wing maybe when you learn to look outside the shit the media feeds you and that terrorism all depends on what die of the argument you are looking at i will pay attention to your repeated hostility to anyone non american. basically your general attitude answers clouds original question in this thread

and if iran is funding terror orgs, who helped set up Al-Qaeda???

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BW doesnt seem to realise that the USA funds and has funded terrorist organisations too... hell look at Al Qu'aeda! Ah just noticed the end of the previous post.

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So if the US is responsible for Al Qu'aeda then they should take responsibility for wiping them from the face of the Earth.

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Well It was a collection of different provinces with different chieftens as the provinces leaders which were actually elected by the people for life. The provinces traded and helped each other during war. Then Estonia was conquerd and forcefully babtised in the begining of the 13. century. It changed hands between large countries like Russia, Poland, Sweden, Denmark and the teutonic knights. Then independance was declared on feb. 24. 1918. We were conquerd again in 1940 by the USSR in 1941 by Nazi Germany and in 1944 by the USSR again. We achieved independence again in 1991.

"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered
automatic weapons."-General Douglas MacArthur
"Cluster bombing from B-52s are very, very, accurate. The bombs are guaranteed
to always hit the ground."-USAF Ammo Troop

Re: America

Its Amazing how many people look at America the way they do.

You people defend Iran, Iraq and Al Qaeda.....and compare the US administration to Terror Orgs.

But, when you are called assholes, we are the bad guys.



/me shakes my head in disbelief.


When I come to meet you in your country, I see the sights, I eat a meal, and I sample the local brew.
Hell, I try to have a convo w/a local and get a feel for the area.


These sick backward extremists wish to come to your country, destroy your sights, blow up the shops while you are eating there, and film an Internet clip sawing your head off.....all in the name of Allah.


Yet, America is bad.


Twisted.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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> "You people defend Iran, Iraq and Al Qaeda..."

Your still not bloody getting it. No one is defending Iran...

> "These sick backward extremists wish to come to your country, destroy your sights, blow up the shops while you are eating there, and film an Internet clip sawing your head off.....all in the name of Allah."

Again, have you met a Muslim?

As Blizzard said, your opinion is based on the media and whatever crap you've been fed. I think it's time to grow a pair, and start acting your age.

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@Skoe

He never said Muslim.  He said extremists.  There's quite a difference.