Topic: Fokker, Food, and Injustice

Last week I loaned a fellow member of the hidden homeless that I live with some money. Ordinarily I do not do such things, but I had come to know this person quite well so had no problem accepting their guarantee that I would be repaid when they recieved their benefit payment a few days later. I also stressed that this was my sencond weeks' shopping money and without it I would have nothing to eat for seven days.
As you can guess this person then vanished into the night, and I was never repaid.
  As hunger pains began to knaw at my expectant stomach (everything affects homeless people faster) I considered my options:

1)  Not eat for seven days.
2)  Beg.
3)  Steal.
4)  Rely on the misnamed "soup kitchen", a christian outreach project providing sandwiches, tea, coffee, cup-a-soup, biscuits and homemade cakes at 8:30pm each tuesday and thursday, leaving five days.
5)  Eat out of domestic dustbins and town-center litterbins.
6)  Visit the back yard of every restaurant, cob shop and supermarket and take what they have thrown out.

  I decided on number 6, knowing that even though I was still technically eating rubbish it was still good as it would have only passed its "best before" date that day.
I visited Pizza Hut, who told me that weekends were the best time to check there as they only really make mistakes with orders during busy periods, the Family Bakers cob shop, the owner of which decided that it would be funny to sneak up on me and slam the lid of the dustbin on the back of my head (revenge was sweet), and finally Sainsburys.

  Sainsburys throws out everything their bakery produces every Sunday night and at some point during the midweek. Mostly your reward for bravely hopping over their back wall is a pile of assorted "baked that day" breads thet have not sold. Sometimes you get some kind of bun, biscuit, cookie or cake, which is usually the result of someone ordering a bag of tooth rotting crap and then not bothering to pick it up. The night I hopped over the wall there was the usual assortment of bready goodness, and four or five pallets piled high with junk food.
Sainsburys has a nasty habit of leaving their deliveries out back for hours.
As you can guess I have done this before now, out of necessity I can assure you, and at no point have I touched the deliveies (It doesn't take a genius to figure out what will happen to me if I try to "live" off of a crate of Walkers Crisps for seven days) however I have had the opportunity to watch organised gangs of addicts steal nothing but pallets of Coca-Cola, or other such valuable brand named crap.

  So as I creep from around the back of the waste compactor I can see that the bread is within easy reach. What I didn't see in my haste is the manager waiting for me.
Busted.
Naturally I cooperate, after all what kind of prick is going to put me in prison for trying to survive? We have a nice chat in the security guards office while we wait for the Police to arrive, where I notice that none of the security screens give an external view of the building (no wonder their deliveries keep getting raped by the 'phet-heads), and I understandably fail to convince the manager that I'm only there for the foodstuffs they have thrown out (Every Sunday night and either Wednesday or Thursday night). The Police arrive, they talk, the manager gives me a letter that is clearly meant for shoplifters, and then I am taken to the police car, inside which the officer tells me that he "Isn't going to arrest some homeless for trying to take a few mouldy loaves of bread". But just to be sure we go back to the Station where he has a quick conversation with his Sarge, and I learn that the only prosecutable crime I have committed is Tresspass, which is part of Civil Law and not Criminal Law.
  I also learn that had I chosen to wander onto the back yard of Sainburys whilst their back gate was open, i.e. during a delivery, I could have taken a whole pallet of junk food and only be charged with something called "Theft by Finding" if I recall correctly, a minor offence with a very small punishment (Apparently the logic is that it is your own damn fault for leaving open access to things that are worth selling).

  On my way "home", still foodless, I walk through the town centre, past a bar cum restaurant as a gargantuan superchunk of a fat man leaves, turning to walk in the same direction that I am headed in. As he passes a litter bin he drops a receipt into it.
I'm an uncontrollably nosey bastard so out of instinct I grab it.
The gargantuan superchunk of a fat bastard has just eaten one Ale and Beef Gourmet Pie, one something-beginning-with-C Steak, and a side salad. SIDE SALAD!
In total that "one" meal cost the same, optimistically, as three weeks of my own food shopping.

I honestly considered mugging that bloated land whale. It is a good thing I didn't, I was so angry at him that I would have kicked him to death.

AvR

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

Re: Fokker, Food, and Injustice

7. Work

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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8. Sell computer and cancel internet subscription.

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What are you suggesting fokker? That it is unjust that you gave away 1 week of food money to a homeless man "promising" you that he would give it back? Or is it unjust that you were caught trespassing? Perhaps it is unjust that the man eats so much without regard to what poor people have to go through everyday? Or maybe he does have regard... maybe he donates a large percentage of his money to charities to help people like you out.

I dont see the injustice in any of this.

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I'm pretty sure this was signed by somebody other than Fokker

maybe "jobs" aren't available but before I'd steal* or compete with raccoons I'd consider doing chores for petty cash.

*Well, petty theft.  A well-designed takeover robbery is honest labor.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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no offence but fokker didn't you say you used to be a manwhore? why did you stop with that?

oh and I'm sorry to hear about your problems (and your manwhoring)

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....Firstly a person found going through the waste surplus of a store/supermarket can and will be prosecuted for taking stuff from the disposal areas off premises, the reasons for this are "many-fold" and not just because security officers are bored they are : 1, opening sealed bags can attract vermin (rats, mice, foxes to name a few) to this area (which in turn does not look good for a food shop to have swarms of vermin in and out. 2, any food taken and consumed (if it gives you food poisoning) could lead to prosecution which the store would have to answer (yes, even though these products are "refuse"). 3, as you pointed out on "arrest" you noted several areas not covered by the security systems, so unconciously you have "vetted" that store out and know the "weak-points".
....Secondly before becoming security manager and security trainer i spent 4yrs homeless (on the beachfront in rhyl, wales) and when you need to eat you will eat, there are jobs available if you can be bothered lowering your self respect and attitudes (on the lower end of the jobs market), and there is the dole system in the UK where you can apply for an "emergency loan" (you will have to pay this money back but at a low rate!).
....Thirdly what in gods name made you trust ANYONE?....rule one of the streets handbook must be "do NOT trust anyone", i like to try and help my friends but not to the exclusivity of my own personal basic needs....if i have

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Just steal man smile

Do what ya gotta do tongue

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right wink

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/me slugs Frenzy and jacks his llama

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Lose all pride and work. Life sucks but at least you can work to better your circumstances.

Rehabilitated IC developer

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....i agree with you petrolstone....sometimes you have to bite the bullet and start all over again....if i was religious fokker i would pray for you but i'm not so i won't but i do wish you all the best smile

....Marijuana: proud sponsors of the snack food industry since it began

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No friends or family to leech off? yikes

Your = possessive. As in, "your grammar sucks."
You're = you are. As in, "you're an idiot for not knowing the difference."

Re: Fokker, Food, and Injustice

Try mugging pensioners

And hey give me back my llama X(

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right wink

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start a revolution! gather all the other poor and kill the rich! loot their houses, skin their dogs and cats (and sell the skins), steal their weapons (must be a plenty of them there) and than overthrow the authorities with your ashamed army. hunger is the strongest weapon on our planet and a sharp weapon for those who can use it. show no fear, there are more poor than they have bullets in a weapons magazine. send wave after wave until you have won.

for more information call Hugo Chavez (Venezuela), or find a ghost talker for Mao Tse-Tung (Red China)

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@Firewing

"overthrow the authorities with your ashamed army"

....I hope you are not talking about the UK's Army there Firewing, if so why should they be ashamed?

....Marijuana: proud sponsors of the snack food industry since it began

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i mean the army of the poor who just slaughtered the rich. after murdering they cannot go back, only move forward in their revolution!

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lol he is talking about the homeless people. Why would the british army be trying to overthrow the authority's

Anyway me and my Llama shall join this revolution

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right wink

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like sex?

...Deci were have you been? tongue
Welcome back alright.

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lol deci usually doesnt contribute anything but he sure is funny as hell tongue

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...especially last months.

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If the Africans knew how to make rudimentary tools they would be a force to be reckoned with tongue

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right wink

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???

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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it was a sarcastic comment X(

Frenzy
My President is black, infact hes half white so even in a racist mind hes half right wink