In my opinion, no.

I took Camaar for the 200% speed.  To be twice as fast as a normal attacker.  I'd stick with the -30% research, just for the sake of the speed.

Now however, for me, the drop in speed doesn't warrant the -10% research (they upped it a little).  Okay, you get a little more science, but in my opinion not worth the drop in 50% speed.

PI is nice though.  Countless times you log in, need to make a quick attack, and usually just go in blind.  Now however, you'll at least have PI to double check before you trigger your attacks.

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Overall, I think the race has degraded and become less useful.  To such an extent, that I won't ever use it like this.

However, having said that - the race isn't utterly useless.  It's a matter of playstyle too and it may suit your needs.

It's become just useless enough for me, personally, to not use it (and rather use a custom race) - however it's no way near as bad as something like Wardancers.

touche.

Hey Beowolfe, long time no see

Nice attempt at a save, however you've overlooked two things and had me draw out the Excel sheet, just to confirm my suspicions.  Granted, I didn't check the actual numbers initially, I based it on a purely instinctual feeling.  I've played long enough with this race, to have a gut feeling of what it's about.  This, in my opinion, is exactly what you lack because of your inexperience at attacking.

The points are:
1) The game rounds up
2) Diagonal movement

1 - Rounding
Your table looks all nice and fine there, however you forget, that IC rounds up for travel times. (Infact your table is wrong).  So for a 3 tick travel time in a straight line, say from 1,1 to 1,4 will be:
Camaar (200%) = SQRT (0^2 + 3^2) / (1+2) = 1. ......ie, 1 TICK (Why do you have 2?)
Camaar (150%) = SQRT (0^2 + 3^2) / (1+1.5) = 1.2 .....ie, 2 TICKS.
Custom (100%) = SQRT (0^2 + 3^2) / (1 + 1) = 1.5 .....ie, 2 TICKS.
Banker (0%) = SQRT (0^2 + 3^2) / (1 + 0) = 3 TICKS.

As you can see, the difference at 3 ticks is a whole tick already.  This gets worse and worse as distance increases.

2 - Diagonal Movement
Related to rounding.  Basically when you calculate the distance diagonally it introduces decimal places and isn't rounded.  This then gets rounded up.
Case for 1,1 to 2,2 (ie, 1 tick diagonally):
Camaar (200%) = SQRT (1^2 + 1^2) / (1+2) = 1. ......ie, 1 TICK.
Camaar (150%) = SQRT (1^2 + 1^2) / (1+1.5) = 1.414 .....ie, 1 TICK.
Custom (100%) = SQRT (1^2 + 1^2) / (1 + 1) = 0.707 .....ie, 1 TICKS. <<------ (this is same for anything greater than 60% speed)
Banker (0%) = SQRT (1^2 + 1^2) / (1 + 0) = 1.414 .....ie, 2 TICKS.

Case for 1,1 to 3,3 (ie 2 ticks diagonally):
Camaar (200%) = SQRT (2^2 + 2^2) / (1+2) = 0.94. ......ie, 1 TICK.
Camaar (150%) = SQRT (2^2 + 2^2) / (1+1.5) = 1.13 .....ie, 2 TICKS  <<-------------- (new camaar difference)
Custom (100%) = SQRT (2^2 + 2^2) / (1 + 1) = 1.414 .....ie, 2 TICKS.
Banker (0%) = SQRT (2^2 + 2^2) / (1 + 0) = 2.83 .....ie, 3 TICKS.

The difference exists when you factor it all in.

Also, to rebutt your other point - It's not uncommon for myself, or other attackers to send fleets beyond 3 ticks.  Infact, it happens more often than not these days.  So it's slowed down already vs attackers - and when the competiton gets heated, 1 tick or 2 tick difference in travel time, is telling.

Ofcourse, to reiterate, its a different playstyle and I said its still playable.  Just based on what you want.  Effectively they've sacrificed the Camaar's specialty of speed, in favour of Science to make it more like Custom.  For me, it's always been about speed relativity.  If you drop a custom speed to 75%, then I'm happy with 150%.  If it's not, then personally, I don't think the -10% research is enticing enough to take 150% speed.

Like I said, I used to love Camaar and played them forever.  But I won't with these changes - with Military research being fixed, people will be silly to not take 50% cons science, considering the value of that is only sacrificing a mere 50% speed.

Yeah I agree with T this really has made the camaar a lot less playable... The main reason was for the attack speed now there pretty much a custom unless your attacking far away, isn't worth what you give up in research anymore, if they wanted to do this they should have gave camaar like +25% research not -10%, but that's just my thoughts on it... That being said this will be my last rd to play camaar if they remain as they are,"a retarded custom attacker with a jet pack..."

but the idea was to be able to beat out attackers from family's you are warring with if the family your fighting is nearby your slight edge is out the window....

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I think its a shame I too played camaar for 3 years due to speed and knowing you can attack twice in the time a custom can attack once ment yout did not need spells you could do a test attack sit back play with the results and attack again

Not happy
glad im a banker this round

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/me has it

if only i bothered with bankerraids,... or sending attacks at all