Topic: absolut ad

anyone see it?

supposedly stirred up a lot of emotions. i thought it was funny. they could some great ones w/ europe.

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Not if they want to sell wodka

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try to find the commercial on youtube and share with us.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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it's not a video it's this

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/264-an-absolut-mexico/

which is a map of Mexico before the 1835 war with Texas and the 1848 war with the United States

By an astonishing quirk, taking the other side in a 150-year-old border dispute turned out to piss off a lot of Americans.  Who would have thought, huh?

BTW it has made straight news broadcasts that Skky Vodka announced it is made in the USA and damn proud of it...

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

5 (edited by ☭ Fokker 12-Apr-2008 10:09:44)

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"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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"I don't see what the problem is..."

There are currently 12 million illegal aliens resident in the USA, many of them Mexicans, millions of whom insist the TRUE border is just as shown and last summer they were marching by the millions in US cities under a Mexican flag.

This is like American Express running ads showing all Ireland, Wales and Scotland as separate of England like it was in 1100

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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> TheYell wrote:

> "I don't see what the problem is..."

There are currently 12 million illegal aliens resident in the USA, many of them Mexicans, millions of whom insist the TRUE border is just as shown and last summer they were marching by the millions in US cities under a Mexican flag.

This is like American Express running ads showing all Ireland, Wales and Scotland as separate of England like it was in 1100<


Out of a population of 250,000,000 I'd say that 12,000,000 is not bad, although I must wonder how you know there are that many?

We have a few Britons like that, they move to Brittany (in France) and fly the Union Jack and all that, which is funny as Brittany has not been part of Britain for over 1000 years I think. The local French just find it funny.

I wonder if Absolut are planning an Eireish campaign, with Northern Ireland not under English rule? That would be fun big_smile

Personally I wouldn't care about your theoretical advert, and I doubt anyone else in the UK would either, because it wouldn't be saying anything we haven't been shouting at each other for the last 1000 years. Remember, you're talking about a country that is only ever truly united during wartime.

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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agreed

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as a seller of products it's not a good idea to piss off their consumers, and tinkering with land borders is the easiest way to piss off people; even a hint of a suggestion is enough to get many people into a frenzy

these guys essentially pissed on a larger part of their consumer base to appeal to a smaller consumer base, which is really silly of them hahahahahahahaha

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Anyone who is offended by this ad needs to take life less seriously.

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Some people today seem chill. Too chill. They think nothing is worth getting upset about. If nothing upsets you, then nothing is meaningful to you. Just because you live a sad existence of emptiness does not mean everyone else must follow suit. Life is not a joke.

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I don't see the problem...America did forecfully take those territories from Mexico. May as well be gracious in victory.

13 (edited by avogadro 13-Apr-2008 20:25:08)

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"I don't see the problem...America did forecfully take those territories from Mexico. May as well be gracious in victory."

America didnt forcefully take Texas. Texas seceded from Mexico and then Texas applied for Statehood in the US and was refused for many years.

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@Simon

I hope you were speaking generally, because there are plenty of things I get upset about. Trivial things like an advertisement, which is /supposed/ to generate publicity (you know what they say about "any publicity, good publicity"), do not merit my attention.

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or trival things such as lines on a  map.... show me where these lines are in the land and I will start to take them seriously...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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I hope you realise your view is tainted by your cultural background; since your culture's main activity around the world was forcefully forcing themselves unto other people's lands or randomly dividing them it is only natural you have no respect for those lines; the people who fought and died over it will think differently

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but anyway, since advertising is supposed to be about appealing to people, one has to think twice before spreading advertising in one nation which is not going to go down too well in other nations; naturally western people are pretty tolerant of such silly moves, but that doesn't make it less stupid a marketing ploy (not every publicity is good publicity)

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If you get offended by a joke you are too serious and uptight. The ad was a joke.

I think they should do ads like that for all countries. Like china controlling mongolia and the koreas or Greeks controlling the land Alexander conquered.

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19 (edited by [RPA]Sir SupAll 13-Apr-2008 16:06:57)

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@Avo
"America didnt forcefully take Texas. Texas seceded from Mexico and then Mexico applied for Statehood in the US and was refused for many years."

You typo-d.  That second Mexico should be Texas. tongue


@YF
"or trival things such as lines on a  map.... show me where these lines are in the land and I will start to take them seriously..."

Ever heard of rivers?  And that American-Mexican border does have a fence...  I would also like to point out that most places have signs instead of lines.


@PVP
"If you get offended by a joke you are too serious and uptight. The ad was a joke."

I don't think their explanation included the word "joke" in it.  Although, I would agree that American's reactions may have been taken a little too far that it required an explanation, since the ad was displayed in Mexico only, and then made its way across the border from Mexico (oh the irony...).

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Rivers are not lines, and the fence is artifical.... it means nothing... it wasn't there 200 years ago, and it probably won't be there in 200 years.

ALso if the people who died for the random lines someone else drew on some paper want to stand up and explain why they feel so strongly about those fake lines then let them...

I respect those who fought for an ideal, for a way of life... but any who fought purely to ensure some line on some map stayed put (as opposed to making sure that the people behind them didn't get slaughtered/raped/whatever by the people in front of them) they don't deserve my respect.

Wait a thousand years, i doubt that the lines as currently drawn will mean anything...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

21 (edited by avogadro 13-Apr-2008 20:33:17)

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i dont know, i think it wouldnt go over to well with the French if there was an add calling Alsace-Lorraine region part of Germany...

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They dont care(french, germans), the people living there dont call themselfs french or german.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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"Rivers are not lines, and the fence is artifical.... it means nothing... it wasn't there 200 years ago, and it probably won't be there in 200 years."

Lines are artificial.  No such thing as a line unless you drew it.  Going by that statement, seeing as how a fence is built in a line, I'm going to assume that it simulates a line.  Same thing with water.  You create a moat around a castle, you now have a line between the castle and whatever is on the other side of the moat.


"I respect those who fought for an ideal, for a way of life... but any who fought purely to ensure some line on some map stayed put (as opposed to making sure that the people behind them didn't get slaughtered/raped/whatever by the people in front of them) they don't deserve my respect."

It isn't so much as a line as it is what that line contains.  These are territories, stretches of land that have resources within them.  People don't fight for a line, they fight so that line can give them as much as possible.

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Without our lines we're just sexier Canadians

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

25 (edited by East 14-Apr-2008 07:38:15)

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"If you get offended by a joke you are too serious and uptight. The ad was a joke.

I think they should do ads like that for all countries. Like china controlling mongolia and the koreas or Greeks controlling the land Alexander conquered."

the point is not whether it was a joke or whether it was offensive or not, the point is that it isn't a very smart ad if you want to score brownie points with US consumers; tongue in the cheek ads aren't actually thought of as jokes by their creators, they're calculated moves intended to make you buy stuff, hence a good ad makes you buy stuff, a bad ad does not; I don't think I would be inclined to buy absolut wodka after seeing that ad as an american, although that doesn't mean their production plants would be firebombed or anything

also you have a bad choice of examples, why not "in an absolut world" ads for Iraq with occupying Kuwait? Or Japan occupying parts of china and the koreas? Or spain occupying mexico? Or the Soviet Union occupying eastern europe? Or the confederate states occupying the US? Clearly people have a right to print and spread such advertisements and some people would get a chuckle out of them, but that doesn't make advertisements that use them good advertisements.

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