bankers are doing fine as it is with decent attackers protecting them and feeding them planets.

pop banking will never come back popular unless mods take away wizzy ops on pop.

why should we ?

custom bank is more powerfull (as in ops) but you dont take away rev ?  no  there would be outrage......

you know they wont revert it back..... because there aim in doing this is to water down attackers so there is no chance in hell they will go back to camaar as it was... in fact you could say they want this to fail so they can simply take away the camaar race all together.   

what most of these people dont realize is that farming will happen whatever the speed.... people who get farmed are farmed for a reason, we all start at the same level just some are not as good.... these same people dont exactly do the best core cleaning..... and when its 0 tickers its dont matter if its 0% speed or 200%......

and like the camaar race - the term farmed is watered down today......   if your a top 5 fam and you clear a bottom 10 fam of like 5-6 planets in your core (and rightly so becuase other top fams can get in small intruders by taking that bottom 10 fam)  there is in seconds a uni news thread crying crying crying making it out to be a massive 500 planet raid......

it's good to know you always think you know exactly what we are planning tymo... may i enquire what gives you this great insight?

LOL Flashy . I personally think having sense DS and infiltrate on the cammar race it's pointless. It would be better to change the research % to a more decent one and keep the 200% speed because that is what makes the cammar race different from the others. Cammar race is not for everybody, it's for the people who now how to play with it.

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i didnt think id ever say this, but i agree with tymo, well his original comments about the changes, looks like he went off on some rant that i didnt read

granted torqez's statement made more sense they both seem right.

we'll see how it goes though, could be fun. sense ds is a total joke though

On that note if u made a banker race -30% attack, -30%magic,-30% pop,  50% research, 70% income,  TO and an op would be be too good a banker but have 5 points left too.  Camaar is strong cause it has bonuses u cant otherwise get.

better

try again

> zerty wrote:

> On that note if u made a banker race -30% attack, -30%magic,-30% pop,  40% research, 90% income,  TO and an op would be be too good a banker but have 5 points left too.  Camaar is strong cause it has bonuses u cant otherwise get.

50% Research*
70% Income*

I think my point is still valid though my math left a lot to be desired.

''It should be a lot harder for top fams to stay top however.''

you should try getting to the top mate ?   you think we just end up there ?   no we put in hard work and time to get there.