1 (edited by Justinian I 16-Jun-2009 01:38:43)

Topic: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota

Now this is really interesting. The state I live in is 38.6% German and 26.8% Scandinavian. That means that nearly 2/3 (65.4%) of the Minnesota population is of either German or Scandinavian descent. Not only that, but the state more closely resembles the values of their Northern European cousins. It has a 77.9% voter turn out rate, invests a considerable amount in public transportation, welfare programs, education and the arts, the completion rate of high school graduation is 90%, it has the highest average ACT score, the population is stereotypically more involved in the community, it ranks first in the nation for regular physical exercise, and overall it rates higher in health. The state also has the tenth highest median household income.

The major wtf part is the large percentage of Germans and Scandinavians. I mean we have way too many Germans, and yes some towns celebrate Oktoberfest, especially New Ulm. That said, I am actually not surprised. Visitors from other states have commented on the generally more community orientated, although more reserved, culture of Minnesota. Furthermore, churches are active with community service, and those who don't participate in the community or vote in elections are looked down on. Visitors in the south, however, have complained that Minnesotans are too reserved and anti social, although imo we're slower to warm up to strangers and are more accepting of introverts. That said, the state is remarkable with it's economy, health, education, and public transportation. What disturbs me, however, is the hyper active empathy that results with a higher number of refugees compared to other states...

Before I just figured that Europe inherited a great economy from the days of empire. But when you look at Minnesota, it's just a state with nothing special other than its predominately Northern European demographics and cultural heritage. Could it be possible that the reason MN ranks so high in statistics like education and health compared to the rest of the US is because those Northern European immigrants imported a culture that facilitated considerable social investment? But how can this be if the free market is the most efficient, or what are other states doing wrong?

Anyhow, just something I would throw out for discussion. Why is Minnesota, which more closely resembles European models than other states, have such high ratings?

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

if we germans would have won the first world war, the world would be like Minnesota tongue

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Maybe its the genes tongue

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hmm does it have a civil code?

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Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

I would move there,but it

The inmates are running the asylum

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

should worry more about its distance from majoy bodies of water and less with the longitude. its much colder then oregon, michigan, or new england.

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BUT the Twin Cities are full of pompous gits who insist they are a World Class City--because of the Twins. Without the Twins they are no better than Witchita!

So when the owner of the Twins talked up leaving they sued his ass to make him stay! And rammed a new stadium down his throat too! Take THAT, greedy old man! AND they build a senseless tram to it too! Taxpayer funded all of it! Because prestige is more important than sense!

If you know how Tirpitz got the High Seas Fleet out of the Reichstag, gives another point for your Germany 2.0 thesis

And don't forget the unhelpful sidewalk statuary! Eight-foot stone pots right in your path prove the supremacy of their Kultur. Such pots are unknown outside the Queen City of the Midwest. And that giant cherry on a giant spoon! Kolossal!

Or the lifesize bronze statue of Mary Tyler Moore throwing her hat in the air like on the TV show, which is on the wrong street corner but that is ok because tourists think its the same one as in the TV show and gleefully pose beside it for the folks back home. What after all is Truth

Damn I am glad to be back in the Land of Fruits and Nuts

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

Doesn

The inmates are running the asylum

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MinneSNOWta

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

Much more interesting that your previous thread, Justinian (that was just the same old stuff dredged up again). Too bad no one that knows anything about the place had anything worth while to say in response to those specific things about Minnesota that you mentioned.

One or two rip'snortin jokes though. ho ho ho.

Gondor: wtf, im not even mentioned. I was the glue to this family. Thats BS!
Econ: Gondor, if you were the glue, then I was the glue sticky thing that applies the glue.
(edit: I believe that's called the brush).
Torqez: Econ you forgot the part where you say "and I made Torqez delete!"

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

how is it too much like europe when it's as you describe it better then the rest of the US?

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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Al franken is probably gonna be senator from MN

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

13 (edited by Morbo the Annihilator 17-Jun-2009 07:36:20)

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

> 38.6% German and 26.8% Scandinavian. That means that nearly 2/3 (65.4%) of
> the Minnesota population is of either German or Scandinavian descent.

No it doesn't...

You ignore the fact that some people have both German and Scandiniavian descent.

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
Morbo: Hello, little man. I will destroy you!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpP7b2lUxVE

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

believe me, in Minnesota, they pick one

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

Still, the original assumption was an invalid one.

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
Morbo: Hello, little man. I will destroy you!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpP7b2lUxVE

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

either you eat the lutefisk or you dont!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

Sounds like a good state... Shame about the hyper empathy though.

Je maintiendrai

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I heard their math education sucks though. Justinian can't do the basics. tongue

[I wish I could obey forum rules]

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Minnesota is more like canada than america OR europe

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Combo breraker on coffee-king's "I have the last post in every forum" thing!  tongue

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Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

hate you.

Re: Minnesota - Too much like Europe?

wow man, hate is such a strong word

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you too.

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ouch, that was uncalled for

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That's not minnesota nice

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.