Here is a very simple question:

Okay, the story is that the government created a virus so that it could scare people into taking a vaccine that is actually poisonous.

Why wouldn't the government just create a strong virus, and vaccinate people who they wanted to live? 

Oh, and that third link is utterly ridiculous.  Newsflash: Scientists do culture viruses in laboratories in order to study them and develop antibodies.  What, do you think they just shove random drugs in people to see what works?

if they put money into this it is a hell of crappy virus.

> if they put money into this it is a hell of crappy virus.

We havn't yet seen what the Swine flu will do.

Not many Africans travel overseas, and most of the worlds population is in the northern
hemisphere. At the end of the year, when the normal flus run wild, thats when we'll see
if (or if not) the swine flu will be able to mutate and take over the world.

I'm your father

First, where do you get that swine flu is a mix of the normal flu, bird flu, and swine flu?  Calling for a fact check here.

I agree with Acolyte.  There must be a cute girl where you live who you could take to dinner and a movie.

And xeno... sorry, but I'm going to decline on that one.  I was going to start transcribing it for you, but it just got to be a pain in the ass, and frankly, probably utter garbage.

However, I will transcribe the second link for you, only because it's pretty easy: It's simply a black screen, with the following words popping up.

I have done some slight editting, only to correct the spelling and grammar issues in this.

We have established that the swine flu is man made.  Please see my 4 part video on my channel.  Some of you alraedy know this, but for those that don't, the drug which everyone will be rushing to get, even though it will have no effect whatsoever is called Tamiflu, also known as Oseltamivir.

I will add all the necessary links in the info for you to check.
DO NOT TAKE Tamiflu.

Authorities urge caution over Tamiflu fears.

Dated The World Today-Tuesday, 21 April, 2009
Reporter: Oscar McLaren
For now, though, the only country which sees Tamiflu prescribed on a regular basis for the flu is Japan, where there have been reports of children going so far as trying to jump from balconies after taking the drug over there.

Please see the link in info.

TAMIFLU CAUSES
NEUROPSYCHIATRIC
EVENTS IN THE BRAIN

Let's look at who owns major shares in Tamiflu.

Donald Rumsfeld
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld

Bilderberg member George Shultz

In fact, the federal government is emerging as one of the world's biggest customers for Tamiflu.

Are any warning bells ringing yet?

Your illness=their profit

The world we live in today has been designed to create illness and war.

Because it makes evil sociopaths

Money

Please wake up

My response to this would be a few things:

A: How do they know Tamiflu is the prescribed medication against swine flu right now?  Most people have been taking orange juice and sleep to treat it.  I bet that's another plot by the government: the government is poisoning our oranges and planning on nuking our imaginations, right?

B: The Rumsfeld citation is terrible.
A: It's from 2005.  Shit changes between now and then with regard to stocks.  Until proponents of this theory bring a more up to date piece of evidence, it should be regarded as crap.
B: That was talking about Avian flu, not Swine flu.  That's like saying that a medication will work for the common cold, so we'll use it to treat AIDS.
C: The article itself says soldiers were going to be given Tamiflu.  That means, one way or another, this theory is empirically denied.  Either:
A: The soldiers were given Tamiflu, and since there haven't been reported cases of complications from Tamiflu in US soldiers since then, the medication is safe, or:
B: The soldiers were not given Tamiflu, which means even when Rumsfeld had the opportunity to profit from his position as Secretary of Defense, he didn't take it, so there's no reason the same drug that was rejected earlier would suddenly be propped up to fight Swine flu unless it was shown that Tamiflu was uniquely effective against Swine flu.
D: Read the article.  It cites a number of ways that Rumsfeld backed off of his connections with the drug company.  Let me make this clear.  HE WAS NOT THE DECISIONMAKER HERE.

You'll never know if at some point this, or a predecessor to this, strain of the flu
had been in some way advanced, created, designed, or improved by man. I'm
sure if its true they would cover their tracks, and theres no way any government
is going to blame a major trading partner.

So enuff with the sillyness. Argue about something else .

Zarf BeebleBrix: "First, where do you get that swine flu is a mix of the normal flu, bird flu, and swine flu?  Calling for a fact check here."

Well actually, according to what I've read in the paper, it's a mixture of four different influenzas: one avian, two swine, and one human. Although this is unusual, it's not impossible or even improbable. After all, there is no "surveillance system" to monitor the spread of viruses throughout pigs in North America, and such monitoring is difficult to achieve in practice (though, again, not impossible).

Thus the origin of this new H1N1 variant is unknown, and may even remain so forever, but it's important to remember that this is /not/ evidence of genetic engineering one way or another. It doesn't prove engineering, nor does it discount the possibility. However, I would argue that it's highly improbable given the fact that this strain is not particularly virulent, even despite the WHO warning of a possible pandemic.

I, personally, feel they are just covering their ass, so to speak. Those of us fortunate enough to live in first world countries have extremely little to worry about.

> Those of us fortunate enough to live in first world countries
> have extremely little to worry about.

Unless theres a huge pandemic of biblical proportions, "normal" people
don't have to worry.

It's a manbirdpig!  Quick, we need to nuke the imagination to stop it!

Say strains work like you say they do acolyte, that means that someone got avian flu, two different kinds of swine flu and the regular flu in one body.

Something tells me you wouldn't last that long.

You see in order for them to combine they need 1 host or a chain of hosts.
Someone gets avian and regular
someone gets swine and regular....