68 are not the only ones farming small fams. Every top fam has or is farming small fams and once they take 30-40 they ask for another 50 for a perm nap or they will take more till they are satisfied. 91 are the worse ones this round so far, atm 94 are #1 and they farm fams below 20th. I love the responses of " its our core" ( evan though itsd 4 ticks from the farm fams hs and 50 ticks from theirs)  or " im just doing what Im told to do".

Every fam in the top 8 should instantly give any fam 20th or lower a pnap for free.

Unfortunatly u can kiss ic good bye. Its too far gone and the things that need to be done to help ic need stefan to code and since he wont ic has a few rounds left.

As i said in the past the fam bank needs to be coded out, max 4 man teams. Also as I said in the past it be nice to have it coded where the top fams could not touch a certain rank fam and visa versa. No way in hell should the #1 fam be able to touch a fam that with all their players nw added together are not equal to their top player.

End of last round I told some mods to lower drafts to 2 total and fam sizes to 10-11 during next reshuffle.. None the less till fam bank is removed it will only be a matter of time till this once great game is done.

Just imagine being new to this game and joining some fam and the 1st things u hear are " u either join our team or yoru gone" " were running fam bank and u dont have a choice of what to do, u build what I tell u to and when" etc etc. No fun i that.  I remember when all u people dident evan know what fam bank was when I was running it and I never forced anyone to join it and never forced people to do things they dident want to. Its a game meant to have fun and competetion is fun when you got the time and drive to do it, but to try and win at all costs is the biggest NO NO.

enjoy

Well then families with 3 players only...
Bank SS - Hc attacker  Advantage - Resourcer SS Retake. Better fun.

well PP. yes, the game is dying and farming is getting ridiculous.

we've been hit/farmed by 2170, 2168, 2193, and 2188 (when they still existed)

it was enough to make me go inactive and to make Kagar quit the game entirely. even Econ (our resourcer) didn't want to take new planets as he thought it pointless. (which if u know Econ's planet whoring tendencies. the fact he didn't want planets speaks volumes...)

honestly tho, it's gotten to the point that I don't even care. I'm leaving the game in about a month and it's not worth spending the effort to beat them back.  it's just sad when the 1,3,4,5 ranked fams all hit us, sometimes simultaneously, and they were even hitting us in our HS.  2188 we bothered to fight off, but afterwards I was out of town/busy with ICPG and the rest of the fam CBFed anymore, especially as more fams attack. 2170 actually has a war declaration on us, a 22nd ranked fam. I guess for morale purposes. but it still made me lol.

As far as fam bank goes. I'm not so sure about eradicating it, it's a team game and I don't think there should be restrictions on aid. besides. i've played in plenty of fams that used fam bank technique and it's slowed down their own growth due to inactivity. So I suppose it is fair to use fam bank. But i still thinking farming really small families is wrong. It's one thing to make strategic grabs, and to clear systems for the sake of securing your own system. it's another to be the #1 ranked team and hit the 26th ranked team for half of their planets. Perhaps they could institute a rule where, if the family is more than 15 ranks below u, u would lose 3x ur normal morale for hitting them.

As far as fam bank discouraging new ppl. I think it's a team based game tho. and I would have to say if u force people to only work in teams, then you stop the communication element between the fam, apart from organizing wars, which really kills the "we're all in this together" feeling that I love about IC.

But I do agree, there need to be some changes in order to save the game.

lol bs, how long u been playing? In the old days u had ss,2,3,4 man teams and it was alot more fun, relaxed and alot more new players had a chance as well as a larger assortment of fams had a chance to atleast compete for top 10.

What I proposed before to stop fam bank cant be done without codeing:( so its almost pointless, but none the less we need this game to get back to people deciding what they want to do for themselves more and less of 1-2 people decideing for everyone or u beinbg removed if u dont agree.

When I started fam bank it wasent meant to be like it has become. Your not suppose to force people, your not suppose to say " do this or u get kicked".

Another thing parrot brought up was how easy it is to remove someone, tooo easy. if hes not rogue then maybe make it harder to remove someone. Not fair to remove him just beause he wants to be ss or work with 2 man teams

i didnt have time to read.

i think the problem in ic is that the best players stick together leaving many average fams just sitting there to be hit.

your clueless, the guy that spent most of his rounds in shit fams then after yrs is finally in a top fam thanks to other people and u run yoru mouth and farm small fams

well if thats whot u think. i couldnt be bothered whot u think at all PP ur the one whos runnin his mouth constantly. whotever u gonna say next wont make it otherwize.

if fighting for it doesnt help u can always go down with honor.
i see no problem.

Wrong!

97 has joined the Piranhas!! Nay, more than that, they have surpassed them!!!!

This is official notice, that 97 claim the title of Super Piranhas and overthrow the current Piranha leaders in 95.

Unite with us fellow Piranha members!! - we must fight Galaxy wide opression!!!

Goooooo!!!!!!

"Wrong!

97 has joined the Piranhas!! Nay, more than that, they have surpassed them!!!!"

Don't believe it Piranhas!  Lies, lies, lies.

"I must have been at work while they made me a mod?"

Torquez is mod.  Hey.  Torquez.  Were you the one who sent me to mod-jail for starting this revolution?  (This is not an admission that I started the revolution, btw).

Overthrown?  Haha.  Pretender, you clearly are.

You cannot overthrow the Piranhas!  This is the Piranha Revolution.  Silly Pretender Piranha, EVERY Piranha is a Piranha Revolutionary Leader!  To overthrow us, you will have to destroy every single last one of us, and that, pretender piranha, is impossible.

> Torqez wrote:

> 17:54    melvin    Planet zz in the xx,yy system got xxxx laser
17:54    melvin    wtf col is thinking
17:54    melvin    making a [] laser trap
17:54    Colorado    wtf is melvin thinking he can take col his portal so easy
17:54    Colorado    no sorry melvin
17:54    melvin    :s
17:55    Colorado    melvin
17:55    Colorado    go full fleet
17:55    Colorado    and wait couple ticks
17:55    melvin    i am not elbe

I lol'd!

<Colorado> youre allyd kileld many time my pop banker pop
<Bonanza> u want free planets?
<Bonanza> my ally kills everyone pop
<Bonanza> dont feel special
<Bonanza> u no different from anyone else
<Bonanza> u get the same treatment

pwned