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"But we probably will face such a mortality rate when it hits the developing world.  But, again, we probably will never know, as we won't get straight facts out of those countries."

All I see are "probably", "could be", "maybe". Which means nothing. Prove to me that it is and I may change my stance on this, until then don't concern yourself with it.

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I meant on this forum. This is the internet age, anyone can find somebody that agrees with them with a few clicks of the mouse. That only proves that you aren't the only misguided person out there.

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"All I see are "probably", "could be", "maybe". Which means nothing. Prove to me that it is and I may change my stance on this, until then don't concern yourself with it."

Sometimes, just sometimes, for the sake of human lives, it is better to act on the safe side, rather than appealing to ignorance of the facts as an excuse to do nothing.

Changing the structure of our society so as to make more difficult the spread of such killer viruses might just be a good idea.

For instance, while people the world over start dropping like flies due to various super-viruses, people in OGLU communities who have little physical contact with mainstream society might have a better chance surviving.

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We can put a metal shell around every city to, to prevent deaths from space debris and falling star stuff..

We could put every human in their own personal air bubble, you know, like bubble boy!

We could limit vehicles to 1 mph and require 20 feet of bubble wrap in front, in back, and on the sides.

We should do all of this as it will save human lives, damn the outrageous costs to humanity, and that it will bankrupt all nations trying to do this, lets do it, for the sake of the dying!!!!


If you cannot tell that is sarcasm please have your brain removed, inspected, repaired, and re-inserted.

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"If you cannot tell that is sarcasm please have your brain removed, inspected, repaired, and re-inserted."

If our governments cannot allow an opportunity for its citizens to ensure their own survival, shouldn't we have them 'removed, inspected, repaired, and re-inserted'?.

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xeno you are truly something else, hey I heard a virus can spread to humans from the internet, you best be careful!

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106 (edited by xeno syndicated 24-May-2009 13:37:47)

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Hey, Einstein.  Didn't I read somewhere that you became a politician?  Why don't you go and remove, inspect, repair, and re-insert yourself from politics?  Or, alternatively, go !@#$ yourself.

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"Sometimes, just sometimes, for the sake of human lives, it is better to act on the safe side"

We are acting on the safe side, the virus is being analyzed, cases are being tallied, and we're watching out for it's mutations. That's enough considering how mild this virus is. It is on the same level as the regular flu, not really worth worrying about like per say Marburg.

"Changing the structure of our society so as to make more difficult the spread of such killer viruses might just be a good idea."

Not this crap again, your argument has already been crushed in this regard. Don't bother bringing it up unless you want another beating like last time. ^.^

"For instance, while people the world over start dropping like flies due to various super-viruses, people in OGLU communities who have little physical contact with mainstream society might have a better chance surviving."

See above.

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"Not this crap again, your argument has already been crushed in this regard."

Where was it crushed exactly?  Please remind me, because it seems I didn't notice.

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You never do.

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110 (edited by Lizon 25-May-2009 00:52:20)

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unfortunately there is no cure to ignorance...

Well no there IS a cure but it's so messy...^.^

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12600 confirmed cases 86 dead, that's a case fatality rate of .68% Even if you increase the number of cases by 10x your still talking about less than 1k people dead over the past few weeks that this things has been out. Somebody watch out the sky is falling! wink

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cut the right side of his brain out

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Xeno's obviously missing half already.

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Brains are so overrated tongue

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After the scares of ebola, bird flu, and others you would think bhe could learn unless he was missing a fair portion of his brain.

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Don't forget about teh angry cows!  big_smile

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Diablo II Cow Level ^.^

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There is no cow level

I win the thread!

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Not til the fat cow sings!

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But I entered the cheat code!  That means I win!  Duh!

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When cows fly!

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whateverr: "Anyways look up 1918 flu, first winter it was harmless infected a few people no big deal, next winter it mutated from the people it infected the previous winter and became the pandamic that it is known for. I cant predict the future if the swine flu will mutate, but it doesnt mean that its not a possibilty."

The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 still killed an estimated 1% of the total human population. It was scary because /fifty million/ people had died, and it wasn't children, seniors, or the weak that were dying. It was otherwise young, healthy adults that made up the vast majority of the flu's victims. The virus was specifically evolved to cause hypercytokinemia, which is what you kids might call a "Zerg rush" of the immune system.

Cytokines are proteins that in this instance are used for communicating instructions to your white blood cells, like your macrophages and T-cells. The white blood cells are activated and respond to the invading pathogens. Overloading this response mechanism in just the right location -- such as your airways, heart, or any other vital organ system -- can be highly fatal to the host organism. Hence, young people who tend to have very strong immune systems were the most likely to die from a Spanish flu infection.

Incidentally, young people are also most often the sort to serve in a war, such as the one that was going on at the time. Soldiers deploying to and from their native countries and the front lines were easy carriers of this deadly virus.

"For all we know the gov will mutate it for us since they made it to begin with."

I'm as anti-government as the next anarchist, but at least I do not have to resort to lunatic conspiracy theories to attack what is legitimately unjust. Seriously, think about what you are proposing here.

"it hasnt killed any serious numbers yet, because the situation is still developing. it may not, but im telling you any vaccine that baxter produces for the swine flu is gonna be more deadly than the flu it self!!"

Oh really? On whose authority do you have this information? What's your background in virology? Are you a doctor, a biochemist? Do you have tenure? Do you have a hyperlink to a reputable source? Can you list /any/ reputable sources, online or off? Can you even tell me why flu pandemics are more likely to occur in colder climates and why their rate of infection slows down in the hotter months? I have an idea, next time you're at school, have your science teacher explain the situation to you. Hopefully they're not daft and can at least point you in the right direction.

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DONT BLAME THE PIGS!!!!!!11!1!ONE!1!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbt_PuVAVTU&feature=player_embedded


Btw this is supposed to be humorous, so die if you cannot laugh X(

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i feel sick hmm  *coughs at people

till the end of time..

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So, Nemeara, over the flu yet?  Don't die!!!  (Einstein is a twit.  Don't mind him.)

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If she coughs on you I'll mail her a check. tongue

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