1 (edited by Justinian I 07-Apr-2008 21:55:41)

Topic: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Yes, why?

Ridiculous because you feel guilty and obliged to correct the wrongs of Western imperialism. As an outsider, I have to say you're emo and sensitive. Pretentious because you believe in natural rights, that a government's legitimacy is determined by its ability to guarantee those rights, and that you somehow have the right to impose this pretentious theory on the rest of the world. Hell, these rights are even laws, and somehow since you know these pretentious laws you can judge dictators as criminals!

Why?

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

stop bashing emos,you hurt my feelings.

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3 (edited by Psychogenesis 07-Apr-2008 22:55:00)

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Because they've been directly involved in two world wars, whereas Britain (althogh very involved) was never threatened with possible invation due to distance and the sea. As for the USA, they had even more distance and missed half of WW2, so the USA and UK have suffered less from it, and may be seen by some to be more "reckless" due to it (just as we see the continential Euros as "liberal" and "soft")

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Its also their culture. They're more friendly, or seemingly "communist" as someone is no doubt about to incinuate, so as long as people get along with each other well and don't feel threatened, there will be peace and security. Again, the UK (imo) has very little culture left, and the USA never really had much deep culture due to its relatively short time on the map.

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Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Britain was always under the threat of invasion, it came closer to falling than many of you realise.
Also while you were making General Von Klinkerhoffen Croissant and Th

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Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Apparently the US lost only 400,000 people in WWII. That's a staggeringly low number.

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Which, surprisingly, is more than the UK lost (military-wise).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_casualties_by_country

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

And it varies from site to site.

http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm

http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob62.html

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Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Thats because America knows how to fight.
We value human life....unlike you barbarians in Europe.

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Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

the US lost less people then GB but GB lost less soldiers in WWII, so you cant argue its because America knows how to fight.

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And they were there for a much shorter time.

However those statistics might include the Pacific campaigns?

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"And they were there for a much shorter time.

However those statistics might include the Pacific campaigns?"

yeah, it would include the pacific campaign.

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

Yeah your guys didnt chase japanese down volcanos. You're welcome.

Also dumb as we were, we knew enough to start bombing on the axis before they could get in range instead of declaring war on them and letting them pwn until they could bomb our cities.  You might try that sometime.

Hmm it is true the bulletheads had a better time in occupied Europe than our guys do in Liberated Iraq. When American GIs sleep in Saddams palaces it means they have sleeping bags on the floor not that they use the pool while the prewar staff bakes pastries as usual.

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"Also dumb as we were, we knew enough to start bombing on the axis before they could get in range instead of declaring war on them and letting them pwn until they could bomb our cities."

But it's more fun when they think they can win!

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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They did win!

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O...k... I take it that somewhere between my PC and my Kettle there is a doorway to another dimension.

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Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

I live in US but i was born in Ukraine. And European people are way more friendly and full of life then americans. ITs a better life over here(financialy) but everything else kind of sucks. Not hating on US but thats why Europeans judge america so much. They have been in 2 huge wars in which almost all the countries except like Engalnd were under rule of other countries so they value their rights a lot more.

And even though England did get bombed to shit...  it never experience the oppression of being taken over...
Thats why Ukrainian people are the friendliest you will ever meet. Have been oppressed for the past 100-150 years. Teaches you quite a bit.

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Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

please, try to avoid making this into another thread about us military. we've laughed at it enough already.

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@Fokker
This thread is nonsense. I don't see why i can't add more nonsense without there being any sort of portal to another dimension tongue.

@Ukie
Ah, that is a reasonable assumption.

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"please, try to avoid making this into another thread about us military. we've laughed at it enough already."

Yea we made those pwnt cry I mean laugh uncontrollably for quite a while now.

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20 (edited by TheYell 08-Apr-2008 08:33:11)

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

actually Ukie the reason the USA is not as friendly is the fault of a guy named Dale Carnegie who wrote a book called "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and what it says is, if you find out what an American's name is, compliment him on how he looks, ask him what he does for fun, agree with him that it is interesting and cool and something you might try someday if you had the free time, and when he gets around to asking you about yourself, mention that you sell things--then you will sell a lot more than if you walk in and offer to sell things to him.
Eighty years later, we're suspicious of anybody who says "Hi!" too loudly

oh yeah and the whole home invasion/mass murder thing

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21 (edited by Gwynedd 19-Jun-2008 02:03:19)

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

"Ridiculous because you feel guilty and obliged to correct the wrongs of Western imperialism."

Because it was Britain who had the largest empire of any european or indeed any other country in the world a hundred years ago.  We try to help countries who used to be part of those empires stand on their own two feet so they don't have to rely on us to protect them.  Unless by that you admit that America has an imperial agenda.  In which case, we Euros are the ones who come in and clean up when America makes a mess of things.  We try to smooth shit out, and we get tarred with the same brush.

"a government's legitimacy is determined by its ability to guarantee those rights"

It should be, because then Mugabe and the government of Burma would have been technically illegal long ago, justifying invasion and liberation, and we know how much you love that Justinian.

"you somehow have the right to impose this pretentious theory on the rest of the world."

Ah, the hypocrite speaks.  Whose country invaded Iraq with the pretense of liberating it and giving it a democratic government, dragging Britain in with you when your government was really after oil.

And you wonder why some European countries are sick of having forces in Iraq and Afghanistan?  It's the arrogant and self-righteous attitudes you are displaying here which we can't stand.  You should be bloody grateful we're bothering to help you know, if all the European countries pulled out tomorrow, America would be [tree]ed.

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Just see it as America is 300 years backwards of Europe, we had colonies 300 years ago for natural resourches and slaves, same goes for the US now, they have a colony called Iraq, wich they have for the natural resourches. They are not loved in Iraq anymore then the Euro's were loved in their colonies.

So its nothing more then that  the US is actually 300 years behind Europe and desperatly trying to catch up.

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Oh come on, like there's boatloads of stuff leaving Iraq for USA

saudis and colombians are keeping the amount of oil on the global market constant

btw where again did you pick up after us?

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

24 (edited by Wild Flower Soul 08-Apr-2008 12:43:31)

Re: Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?

"Thats because America knows how to fight.
We value human life....unlike you barbarians in Europe."

Says the man from the only country that succesfully committed a genocide and isn't ashamed of what it has done (idolising it in Western stories etc.) tongue

"Just see it as America is 300 years backwards of Europe, we had colonies 300 years ago for natural resourches and slaves, same goes for the US now, they have a colony called Iraq, wich they have for the natural resourches. They are not loved in Iraq anymore then the Euro's were loved in their colonies."

The great colonisation is only from the 19th century, CrazyOne.

"Why are Continental Europeans so.... pretetious and ridiculous?"

I must agree with fokker. Americans come across the very same way..
But I'm going with a great historian on this matter, namely Stearns. He sees it as as a reaction on the post-cold war situation, among with tendencies like regionalism etc. When the "2nd world" fell apart in 1989, people in Europe (in other regions as well, though) didn't feel the need for a strong Western Unity anymore, while other regions (mostly in East Europe) sought a national identity. Both situations resulted in a renewed regionalism (Flanders in Belgium, Scotland and Wales in the UK, Catalonia in Spain etc).. He claims that "westernisation" is now considered "americanisation", and that people react to that..

And, since WWII, Europe has changed. In the chock of the first half of the century, so terrible atrocities had happened, that Europe sought for new paths to settle conflicts. The EU started to grow, and Europe now favours diplomacy and other means rather then brute force. I think a superficial comparison with Sparta and Athens is in place. Athens, diplomatic and peace-loving being Europe; Sparta, a military state being the USA; sharing the same culture..

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@ Ukie,  You must live in a North East City.

I know, I hate it in NYC as well.  Or do you live in a West coast city ??

These cities are permeated with Angry Euro-Socialist type miserable individuals.  They are consumed with class envy, and labling and compartmentalizing everyone.
So, I can see how you dislike America vs. Ukraine. 

Its getting cheap to go back soon......ever think about living happy instead of miserable in the US ??

@ Crazy,

less than three hundred years ago, you were all bowing to monarches, and tossing shit out the window into the streets as well. 

Let me know when Iraq forms a Govt., and has a military.

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