Topic: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Yes indeed thanks to our brave Democrats it has come down to the wire.

So lets say a woman is in a bathroom stall and someone sticks a pecker through a hole in the stall. She slaps the pecker away shrieking as she does.

She has committed a FEDERAL FELONY HATE CRIME while he has committed a lewd act. He will get at most a few years if they throw the whole book at him, she will get charged with more time than him even if they try to go easy on her, cause it is Federal Law.



If your mom has died, and your going to the funeral parlor, and you find some freak humping her body you pull him off, you now will go to jail for much longer than he will. Because stopping him violated his rights under the new HATE CRIME BILL passed in the House of Representatives.


If you find someone who raped and killed a child of yours, and you hit him or slap him, or spit at him for committing the sexual act, you are guilty of a HATE CRIME and will be charged with a FEDERAL FELONY.


For those who do not know a Misdemeanor is the low charge here in the United States. A maximum fine of $1000 and/or a up to a year in local jail. A Felony is the high charge here, with fines up from $1000 to the roof I think, and always greater than 1 year in jail. A Federal Felony is considered worse since they rarely assign you to a minimum security prison (Unless white collar criminal) and usually your voting rights are taken away.



During arguments in the House while the plan was being adopted, lawmakers pointed out the representatives were voting for protection for "all 547 forms of sexual deviancy or 'paraphilias' listed by the American Psychiatric Association."

All Democrats voted in favor.



Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., a "hate crimes" supporter, confirmed opponents' fears, saying:

    This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these 'Philias' and fetishes and 'ism's' that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

I'm sure we could find as many hypocritical laws made by republicans as there are democrats. ^.^

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

lets be honest no jury would commit in most circumstances. besides if someone does 'flash' in front of you- assault is still assault. if you attack a paedophile its still illegal no matter how sick that guy is.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

"I didn't see it and accidentally ran into it and banged it against the wall" ^.^ Don't put things where they don't belong. tongue

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Dude the law is supposed to be special, not special ed. You do not make laws and say 'well the juries wont convict when they should not'.

Lets put a law up saying you can kill Democrats at will so long as a jury convicts them of being democrats if you believe that crap.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

flint....i don't know what you were trying to accomplish with this post but it obviously failed. Politicians make laws, not jut one party.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

big_smile next thundercats movie: demcats vs repcats; lots of fighting and nagging, but in the end they ll just succumb to the big can of fresh catfood:P

till the end of time..

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Lizon your a fool.


Right now the Democrats hold the House, the Senate, the Courts, and the Whitehouse.

They can pass what they want, and are.


Excepting the guy who left, and 2 other Rino's who I am hoping leave soon, the Republicans have said NO to all the exceptional crap the Democrats are doing.

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9 (edited by Lizon 08-May-2009 19:10:22)

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Flint, again, politicians make laws. And republicans are just as guilty of making idiotic laws as anybody else. Another thing that you need to understand flinty-poo is that the vast majority of the laws that effect you every day are on the local state and municipal level. You are so focused on the federal level that your ignoring the local level that is far more important in terms of your daily life. Trying to paint the republican party as "knights in shining armor" isn't going to do it flint. Cause that armor is as tainted as anybodies. Only a "fool" wouldn't see that.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

I fight Republicans when they make crap for laws.


You seem to refuse to do that for your Messiah's party though.

Instead you take an argument and twist it on it's head, instead of showing outrage when appropriate, you say oh well.


I forget the argument style you are using name, but I am sure Chris can name it, or a few others.


Honestly just replace Pedophiles with Republicans in some democrat forum and watch the raving anger, ism's with Conservative, and something else with Libertarian. They will call for the execution of the Democrats trying to make us a protected status.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Obama isn't my Messiah -.- He came and went 2k years ago. Nor are the democrats "my" party. What I am is a realist, and I recognize corruption on both ends of the isle, and I don't intentionally try to paint an entire party in one giant brushstroke. That's irresponsible and shows a sevear lack of character.

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12 (edited by Theodora 08-May-2009 19:52:52)

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

As usual Flint doesn't know what he's talking about.

He obviously has no clue what the term "hate crime" means in the legal American sense. In none of the situations he put forward, would those acts be considered "hate crimes".

Also, I skimmed through the bill. I saw no mention of said "philias", only sexual orientation and gender identity, which are very different things from say frotteurism.


Honestly Flint, educate yourself. Don't look like an idiot.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Sexual Orientation according to the US Physcological (sp imma mad) org says this covers all those pervs out there, anything they do is now protected.

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14 (edited by Theodora 08-May-2009 20:19:44)

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Who cares what they say? What does case law say about sexual orientation? What does the dictionary say? What's the common understanding of the word? That's what the courts should look at when trying to determine what "sexual orientation" means (providing the legislators don't provide their own definition...I didn't see one).


If the court decides "sexual orientation" includes people with paraphilias, then the court has done something wrong. tongue But don't blame the legislators for that. The Bill, in and of itself, is fine.




That doesn't change the fact though that in neither of those cases, was your situation a "hate crime".

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

It's all tied easily together with shown precedent.

Theodora I could hump a pet of yours, get caught by you, have you hit me repeatedly to get off the pet, but since it's not a felony to hump the pet I get to prosecute you at Felony level.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Actually, in the video you posted Einstien, it does state the legal definition of sexual preference, and states that all such activities must be consentual. A corpse or being flashed violates that part of the definition, and as such, is not protected undet the new bill. Same goes for the pet.

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Erm, what video?

I posted no video....

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18 (edited by Theodora 08-May-2009 20:40:20)

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

For the purposes of this post, I shall assume "sexual orientation" includes paraphilias.

You don't get to prosecute me at all. The state decides whether to prosecute me, not you. You can only sue me in tort. So you run into problem #1. The state will likely not prosecute me for a hate crime, though they may prosecute me for assaulting you.

That being said, the state would fail if they claimed it was a hate crime...because it 's not. I attacked you because you were interfering with my property. I was defending my property. No court of sound mind is going to look at that and say "hate crime"


If they do...again, your problem is with the courts, not the legislators.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

wrong, where the object cannot consent or decline consent, there's no need for consent

he's right about the flasher, that came up when that Republican dolt waggling his hands at a cop in a toilet stall in an airport

and the gay rights folks insisted and do insist they got a right to waggle their hands at people in the next stall

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

"Honestly Flint, educate yourself. Don't look like an idiot."

Too late.

21 (edited by Theodora 08-May-2009 21:09:41)

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

I probably shouldn't have said that. It was mean.


But Flint, your hyperbole and everyone who disagrees is the "spawn of Satan" or whatnot is tiresome.



Flint, I suggest you look into the hate crime aspect of the Bill. It may ease some of your worries.


Here in Canada, unless I deface a mosque, a synagogue or a church,  it's difficult to prove it was a hate crime. I doubt it's easy to prove in the States, since you would need to prove that their crime was motivated by their bias. And that is very difficult to do for the majority of crimes (e.g. I mug someone in San Fran not knowing he's gay...no hate crime...the state wouldn't be able to prove it and I can claim I didn't know and was mugging him for cash). So unless it's pretty blatant, the courts won't find that it was a hate crime.


In no situation you have provided so far, would you be able to prove it was a hate crime.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

Flint is "ignorant" because he knows what Congress said it meant when it voted for the bill.  Clearly since the Supreme Court will ask online gamers what they want, instead of reading statements by members of congress as they voted, flint is insane.

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

The day when Liberals, Democrats, and Environmentalists can read my words, understand they come from me, not challenge me on a source, not challenge me on the basis, not try to reverse an argument is the day when world peace will happen.

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24 (edited by Theodora 08-May-2009 21:11:24)

Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

That's not true at all. A lot of Republicans would still disagree with you. tongue And Moderates. And anyone else who doesn't fit on that axis. big_smile

What you really meant to say was:

"The day everyone on Earth agrees with me about everything will be the day that there is world peace." big_smile

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Re: Got flashed in public, hit the perv? He gets <1 year, you get >1 year!

No no I mean what I said. They can still disagree but they cannot troll, disbelieve my sources, or otherwise try to avoid what was said

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