http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laRDBHorh9A

Honda Clarities be where it's at yo.

Nooooooooo Claritieeeeees!

I had written a few lines telling you why another one of your posts was stupid and missed the point completely, but in the end I deleted it because I couldn't be bothered; there is no point to the propoganda that you attempt to spread on a forum with maybe 100-200 visitors. I'd be surprised if 1 person changed their aliegance based upon your posts.

He has disillusions of grandeur. Like a chihuahua, barks a lot, annoying as hell, and easily easily eaten by birds. ^.^

The EV1 had an initial manufactoring cost of $80,000 a vehicle, and then they needed a new battery cause the existing one could catch fire (one actually did).

The newer battery took longer to charge and was less feasible than the first for electric car's in total.

At the end of the experiment the auto was scrapped cause replacing the batteries nearly every three years was seen as extremely costly for any consumer. Additionally there are issues with battery life span reductions during this time based upon usage type.

When expected breakthroughs in batteries (Read Obama and California style expectations of the future) did not occur the EV1 was doomed.

Oh and consider this post in the remarks, they are talking about Lithium...

Bolivia has an estimated 5.4 million tons, we have 410,000 tons, China has 1.1 million tons, and Chile has 3 million tons. Total world deposits equal 30 million tons.

Extracting lithium is an expensive and time intensive process of pumping water in to lithium-containing beds, then letting what bubbles up dry, then reprocessing it. Further, the majority of lithium is controlled by communist/nationalistic socialist states, making relations tricky.

While it still sounds like we have a LOT of lithium consider this. There are 600 million vehicles (appr.) on the world's roads today. With the battery pack in the Volt weighing 400 lb., even if just 10 percent of the battery pack was lithium, that would make for:
40 lb/(1 ton/2000 lb)*600 million vehicles = 12 million tons of lithium.

That means that to replace just one generation of vehicles, we'd have to use up 1/3rd of the world's lithium. That's a big deal, considering the demand-related price effects that would have on the electronics industry, drug industry, and other lithium-using industries.

True a minor adoption is not to dangerous (might spike resource prices just a bit), but major adoption just seems infeasible.

I do think A123's Nonophosphate provides a potentially promising alternative. But more research needs to be done to find a battery solution with a less scarce elemental basis. This would DRAMATICALLY reduce the price, and could provide a boost to the consumer electronics industry as an extra perk.

In the meantime, I say mild hybrids, direct injection, diesel, and cellulosic ethanol are the best bets for the near future.

Yessss....get a prius....I always wanted to plow through dumbasses in traffic like a...big...plow...thingy in a field of snow...or wheat...or stuff to be plowed...yesssss

Lizon they would like to, except the damned life span of batteries is so weak as to make it not practicable just yet.

Yes there is some promising research in Carbon Tube anode's, biological batteries, nanotube barriers, and super capacitors... but right now the creation costs are about the cost of a Humvee per a battery.

In 10 years we can do it, but right now? No way.

omg a golf cart at a military base? Wow I could not see it coming that a place with unlimited access to power might have MP's on electric carts!!!! WOW O_O

As a real war application it's crap. Anti-Terrorism from a friendly nation with assured power, it can almost be feasible.

This is our military that your talking about flint. And the programs to begin looking at alternative energy sources for the military started under the bush administration. So yes flint, that was your republican president spending your tax payer dollars on "greening" the US military.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487348,00.html

So they've been looking at this for a while now.

I poo poo on that idea Chris X(

And Lizon to make it clear, yes there are electric golf carts, and yes there is a DoD challenge out there, but no one is going to make that any time soon. Trust me I am keeping well abreast of the battery market as close as anyone can. I am going to tell my family when they need to dump every last penny in the manufacturer that finally gets it right. This is my personal pet stock project and I am keeping WELL ABREAST of the situation.