Topic: American sensitivities

So I learned that Americans are sensitive about a few things, among them being

1. 9/11
2. Guns
3. Multiculturalism
4. Human rights
5. Your presidents
6. Your history


Now personally, I think you guys need to chill. You come off to those of us across the Atlantic as being goofs driven by ideology. You even go so far as to suspend people's political freedoms because they don't satisfy your values. Sure, we abhore the Muslims under Osama, but we don't arrest some one for preaching Islam. We laugh at them. Furthermore, we don't just dismiss a guy who wants to regulate immigration as racist either. And human rights? I mean come on, you guys are up in arms over any human rights abuse. Sure excessive and wanton abuse should be condemned, but you guys don't seem to respect the practical challenges that political leaders have to face.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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Nice try. But it doesn't apply.

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Most of these are fails.

4 (edited by Elrohir 05-May-2009 00:00:35)

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Everything you said was also a [ I mean fluffing ] fail.

Just trying to show how sad you really are

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

5 (edited by Justinian I 04-May-2009 22:41:23)

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Well if that was your point, you could always provide evidence to the contrary rather than make a thread. I have evidence for all my points.

1. Royalty - Check the thread. A little laugh and its foul language and insults
2. Nazis - There are laws on the book, lol.
3. Multiculturalism - http://nemoo.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/spreading-multiculturalism-in-europe/. Just one example of bs sensitivity and a lack of logic.
4. Political Pragmatism - Henry Kissinger is considered a War Criminal in European countries, lol.

So I don't think it's unfair to say that you guys/ladies are guilty of being needlessly sensitive.

6 (edited by EliteInternetWarrior 04-May-2009 22:45:03)

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> [RPA] Arocalex wrote:

> Everything you said was also a fucking fail.

Just trying to show how sad you really are

Don't get too emotional, I wouldn't want my IQ to drop even more while reading your posts. To go through your dumb list:

1. Dont care. Get a few CIA or SFOD-D teams, murder Osama and his lieutenants and be done with it.
2. DO CARE - as should you. It's your only tangible way to assert your rights if your governments go totalitarian. Plus, why do you give so much shit to US over guns, when the Swiss have automatic assault rifles in their houses, hmm?
3. As long as the pricks coming here arent demanding sharia law to be instituted on every street corner, dont care.
4. Dont care, unless its my citizens.
5. Dont care.
6. Dont care, I already know the unbiased.

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> [RPA] Arocalex wrote:

> 5. Your presidents



I want to get into this one in particular...


Okay, countries such as Great Britain have two different leaders: A political leader and a symbolic leader.  The political leader is open for criticism: People can attack Gordon Brown if they want, and it's reasonably acceptable because his position is deciding policy.  But if you start personally attacking the Queen of England... whoo boy... that's bad.  Why?  Because the Queen isn't a political actor: She's a representative of the nation, its heritage, and its tradition.  If you attack the Queen, you attack the country itself.



Herein lies the problem: The US doesn't have this.  We have a political leader, but our symbolic leader is also the political leader.  Thus, when you do attack the President, you essentially do the exact same thing as if someone were to personally attack the Queen of England.


Does that explain the issue?

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8 (edited by EliteInternetWarrior 04-May-2009 22:51:00)

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> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:

> > [RPA] Arocalex wrote:

> 5. Your presidents



I want to get into this one in particular...


Okay, countries such as Great Britain have two different leaders: A political leader and a symbolic leader.  The political leader is open for criticism: People can attack Gordon Brown if they want, and it's reasonably acceptable because his position is deciding policy.  But if you start personally attacking the Queen of England... whoo boy... that's bad.  Why?  Because the Queen isn't a political actor: She's a representative of the nation, its heritage, and its tradition.  If you attack the Queen, you attack the country itself.



Herein lies the problem: The US doesn't have this.  We have a political leader, but our symbolic leader is also the political leader.  Thus, when you do attack the President, you essentially do the exact same thing as if someone were to personally attack the Queen of England.


Does that explain the issue?

Not really. I could give a rat's left testicle what other people think of Obama, Bush, or Jefferson for that matter.  I think standing by the position is more important. Which is why Nixon, Bush, and others should have went. They were the ones who shamed the office, and in an supposedly open society like this, you have no obligation to respect public officials beyond the extent to which you are required to respect any other citizen.

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The Queen doesn't even do anything so there's not really anything to criticise her on? tongue

10 (edited by EliteInternetWarrior 04-May-2009 22:52:20)

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> [TI] ARFeh zee Frenchie wrote:

> The Queen doesn't even do anything so there's not really anything to criticise her on? tongue

I think it's more of the personal attack arena.

(i.e. Bush is a moron. The Queen is a whore.)

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You take that back traitor X(

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> [TI] ARFeh zee Frenchie wrote:

> You take that back traitor X(

being french you would delighted, no?

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I'm French in the same way you are elite and a warrior.

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1. 9/11

Probably because when Europeans talk about it there is usually the assumption it was our fault or we deserved it.

2. Guns

Gun control is a divisive issue here while it's been pretty much settled across the pond. 

3. Multiculturalism

We are one of if not the most diverse country in the world so race politics is a big deal for some. There are plenty of people who blame racism for everything and there are a number of people who have made a career out of it over here.

4. Human rights

European ideas about human rights are ridiculous. Americans don't have sympathy for murders and terrorists we recognize these people as scum.

5. Your presidents

I hate people who worship politicians.

6. Your history

I don't like being blamed for something my ancestors did. This is something other cultures don't seem to get. I'm not morally culpable for something that happened before I was born.

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"1. Royalty - Check the thread. A little laugh and its foul language and insults"

At the expense of dead people. I guess some people do not share your form of humour.

Je maintiendrai

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americans are far less active in politics then europeans; our voter attendance is horrible, #5 is crazy fail.

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> BiefstukFriet wrote:

> "1. Royalty - Check the thread. A little laugh and its foul language and insults"

At the expense of dead people. I guess some people do not share your form of humour.

I'm sure if we relegated all humor to be non-sensitive subjects, the world would be an exciting place.

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1) Because so many want to accuse Conservatives of faking it so they can damage conservatism.

2) Because Conservatives wanna be like Sweden and Israel and Liberals wanna be like England and Australia.

3) Because blacks deserve the right to call others racist names but no one can call them anything but master.

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Successful troll is successful

thank you.


"Don't get too emotional, I wouldn't want my IQ to drop even more while reading your posts."

It was a carbon copy of justinians list. And post not posts, this is the first time I posted anything since the whole bash on the muslims period a while back

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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LMAO!! Good one Arocalex!!

You left out a few other things we are sensitive about....

1. American Football (so much better than soccer!)

2. Country Music (Cuz im proud to be an American....)

3. Our awesome muscle cars (who can insult a 68 Camaro? Come on!!)

4. BBQ'd ribs (Frickin delicious! if you dont like these something is wrong with ya!)

5. Justin Timberlake (Sexy, sensitve and yet so serious)


There are lots of other things we  are sensitive about, but we have the right to be! We will bomb your ass if you disagree!!

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Also you guys are very sensitive when people attack you and speak up against anything or anyone not following your ideals. You try to convince people a lot not giving them the choice to decide which idea has more merit, you bash other peoples ideas and discredit them at any turn. which is probably a good thing but you do it in such a way it is outright despicable.

It makes me sick inside.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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Arcolex a little thought for you.

Democrats play race card, were sponsors of slavery, even one of their hero's (FDR) was a blatant racist... Republicans freed the slaves, made equal rights, and our last VP has not been filmed making racist comments like the current one has.

Democrats are sensitive about race issues, they complain about percieved racism, Republicans say convict for real crimes, but everyone is equal so treat them equal. Democrats push for inequality in the name of equality.

US history with guns is that they stop tyranny. NOT ONE concealed weapons permit holder has ever committed a gun crime. When guns have been outlawed in cities gun crimes, as well as all crimes, went up. Yet this is put down because Democrats must either want to be criminals, aka the only ones with guns, or dictators who do not need to fear a populace which is armed.

Human rights, only Democrats seek to make rights out of everything. Republicans say the best rights were made over 200 years ago with a couple more recent Amendment additions.


The only ones who re-write history in this nation are Democrats.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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who's aint?

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abuse is subjective...

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Subjectivity is subjective...

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