You didn't use the word magic nearly as much as me and Xeno before me! For 20+ pages.

wait what... people still think that Xeno isn't demented and can be argued with? He will jsut change the topic and still be wrong... oh and idiotic and a moron and retarded

27 pages later, Xeno says "Oh damn, it IS a stupid idea!"

>>Now I hope you don

Lizon, I tried making this city argument, and xeno still didn't answer it.  Don't even bother.

Magyar!

I remember now. I my reply to someone posting about Xeno's nationality, I commented that I thought he was from Eastern Europe, because I clearly remember him weeping over his ancestors, whom are Magyars, better known as Hungarians. Hence my confusion when I heard he was Chinese.

By the way Xeno, still hate Europe, the EU and Europeans? Or is that phase over?

By the mid 22nd century OGLU's will be obsolete as they are replaced by modern centralized infrastructure. Furthermore their usefulness is severally limited. Most "developing" nations are highly urbanized. True their facilities are nowhere near as advanced as developed countries but the infrastructure DOES exist. OGLU's simply can't meet the demands necessary in an urban environment.

Even in rural areas OGLU's will be very improbable options due to simple logistics. The same issues that prevent the construction of modern infrastructure in those areas will also hamper the transportation of OGLU's to those regions as well. In many cases more simplified native designs will be utilized and be paired up with components to provide a more modern standard of living.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masdar_City

That is a prime example of using traditional native building techniques being combined with modern living. This kind of building (using native techniques supplemented with modern technology) can be easily duplicated in almost any environment.

Furthermore an energy sharing system is rendered obsolete when compared to fusion powered electrical grids. If anything the simple fabrication of such a system will use up more resources and cost much more to maintain than a traditional system. It also begs the question "Why bother with having each unit have it's own power system if all units are connected anyways and can simply be plugged into the grid?".

This is the case in an urban environment. In rural areas you'll see more OGL design but not in the form of OGLU's. Which again dries up your "market".

Notice how OGLU's continue to be the path of greater resistance no matter how you look at it.

"Sure, Developed countries might not be able to adapt to that situation, but developing countries certainly will, and leave the 'developed' countries in the dust when it comes to innovation."

It will take them another 150-200 years to catch up, which by then most developed countries will have bigger concerns. At least the US will for sure via our commercialized space operations. We are so far ahead in that arena it isn't even funny. Funny thing is that spaceflight is the ultimate form of OGL design. ^.^ So I guess all those developing countries will be buying our products for centuries to come.

note:
"every OGLU would have energy 'network' sharing technology built into them,"

network=grid ^.^ Thank you for your concession.

Also you seem to have some huge chip on your shoulder in regards to developed/industrialized nations. One has to wonder where such deep rooted contempt and pessimism comes from.

long live the Austrian Empire and the House of Habsburg!

lol justinian

"My father's fathers were Hungarian"

Your father had more then 1 father? that really explains a lot to me.

This thread is so idiotic I declare it my official troll thread.

"I guess what I should have said was that it will be a 'wireless, p2p energy-sharing, decentralized network", with each OGLU functioning as an energy-producing and energy receiving node.  OGLU communities or even individual OGLUs whose storage is saturated will transmit excess low-bandwidth radiation signals to satellites which in turn redirect OGLUs or OGLU communities experiencing energy deficits.  Upon reception, the signals are converted to electricity and replenish OGLU batteries."

2 things. The technology you suggest is highly unstable and very inefficient. Not to mention dangerous. The only wavelengths that can do this are in the microwave range. If your target is off by 1 silly millimeter you'll kill everything in a 100 mile radius. Another thing is that the system will still require things like orbital sub-stations and relay-stations to channel and distribute energy on a planetary system. It would involve "reinventing the wheel" sort of speak but in space. This also doesn't mean there are no ground based facilities, you can't just beam up the energy from each unit, it needs to be collected to a ground based sub-station then transmitted up through a relay-station into orbit. You HAVE to do it this way else you'll loose too much energy in the process. You aren't even considering the science and engineering involved in this! Not to mention that the system your proposing costs a lot more to do to build and doesn't provide ANY benefit over a classic system using clean energy production sources. It is the path of greater resistance.

Secondly if by some miracle of science we make this possible it still is an energy grid which means you can swap out all the energy generating capacity of each OGLU for a single fusion generator. ^.^

It also asks the question again of "why bother?".  What's easier, building a big, huge, expensive, inefficient, and highly unstable energy distribution system that involves everything from ground based relay stations to satellite distribution channels. Or string up each unit in a classic grid and plug them into a clean and highly efficient fusion generator that runs off of buckets of water. -.-