Re: "Liberty and Tyranny" by Mark Levin

BW has no intelligence to argue, so all he can do is insult and he thinks some how insultiung people on the internet makes him a bigger man... he of course is possibly the biggest moron on this borad.... though it is an equal fight with flint

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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skoe you are revealed as an ignorant dork

nobody who hasn't read Hitcherhiker's Guide to the Galaxy should use the internet

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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@  Justinian,  .... Oh sure...the ole New Yorker can dish out the shit w/the best of them.....
And, sure its absolutely worthless babble.

Scroll back.  ANY Thread......and you will see..... who is the first to post w/nonsense ?   Just look ?

Read the book BTW Justinian.   Really.....good stuff.



As a great example.....as I tool the kids to continue..... they after being baited, hooked and landed.....they dopes STILL come back for more.
hehe.

Good stuff really.



Basically, They have the shovel.   The hole just keeps getting deeper....eventually it falls in on them.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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I know, that's why I say you should go offline until you have.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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mad you still here? I told you take a walkabout

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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SKOE HASN'T READ HITCHHIKERS GUIDE?! WTFail Batman.

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hmmm well the last book sucked.  and Douglas Adams died before he could make it right.  but he meant to make it right.

I haven't got into Harry Potter but it would be like, Harry Potter kills Voldemort by blowing up the sun and killing all mankind. Forever. Irreversibly. THE END.  that would suck.

first three books PWND tho.

"   "Now Earthlings ..." whirred the Vogon (he didn't know that Ford
   Prefect was in fact from a small planet in the vicinity of Betelgeuse,
   and wouldn't have cared if he had) "I present you with a simple
   choice! Either die in the vacuum of space, or ..." he paused for
   melodramatic effect, "tell me how good you thought my poem was!"

   He threw himself backwards into a huge leathery bat-shaped seat and
   watched them. He did the smile again.

   Ford was rasping for breath. He rolled his dusty tongue round his
   parched mouth and moaned.

   Arthur said brightly: "Actually I quite liked it."

   Ford turned and gaped. Here was an approach that had quite simply not
   occurred to him.

   The Vogon raised a surprised eyebrow that effectively obscured his
   nose and was therefore no bad thing.

   "Oh good ..." he whirred, in considerable astonishment.

   "Oh yes," said Arthur, "I thought that some of the metaphysical
   imagery was really particularly effective."

   Ford continued to stare at him, slowly organizing his thoughts around
   this totally new concept. Were they really going to be able to
   bareface their way out of this?

   "Yes, do continue ..." invited the Vogon.

   "Oh ... and er ... interesting rhythmic devices too," continued
   Arthur, "which seemed to counterpoint the ... er ... er ..." He
   floundered.

   Ford leaped to his rescue, hazarding "counterpoint the surrealism of
   the underlying metaphor of the ... er ..." He floundered too, but
   Arthur was ready again.

   "... humanity of the ..."

   "Vogonity," Ford hissed at him.

   "Ah yes, Vogonity (sorry) of the poet's compassionate soul," Arthur
   felt he was on a home stretch now, "which contrives through the medium
   of the verse structure to sublimate this, transcend that, and come to
   terms with the fundamental dichotomies of the other," (he was reaching
   a triumphant crescendo ...) "and one is left with a profound and vivid
   insight into ... into ... er ..." (... which suddenly gave out on
   him.) Ford leaped in with the coup de gr@ce:

   "Into whatever it was the poem was about!" he yelled. Out of the
   corner of his mouth: "Well done, Arthur, that was very good."

   The Vogon perused them. For a moment his embittered racial soul had
   been touched, but he thought no - too little too late. His voice took
   on the quality of a cat snagging brushed nylon.

   "So what you're saying is that I write poetry because underneath my
   mean callous heartless exterior I really just want to be loved," he
   said. He paused. "Is that right?"

   Ford laughed a nervous laugh. "Well I mean yes," he said, "don't we
   all, deep down, you know ... er ..."

   The Vogon stood up.

   "No, well you're completely wrong," he said, "I just write poetry to
   throw my mean callous heartless exterior into sharp relief. I'm going
   to throw you off the ship anyway. Guard! Take the prisoners to number
   three airlock and throw them out!"

   "What?" shouted Ford.

   A huge young Vogon guard stepped forward and yanked them out of their
   straps with his huge blubbery arms.

   "You can't throw us into space," yelled Ford, "we're trying to write a
   book."

   "Resistance is useless!" shouted the Vogon guard back at him. It was
   the first phrase he'd learnt when he joined the Vogon Guard Corps.

   The captain watched with detached amusement and then turned away.

   Arthur stared round him wildly.

   "I don't want to die now!" he yelled. "I've still got a headache! I
   don't want to go to heaven with a headache, I'd be all cross and
   wouldn't enjoy it!"

   The guard grasped them both firmly round the neck, and bowing
   deferentially towards his captain's back, hoiked them both protesting
   out of the bridge. A steel door closed and the captain was on his own
   again. He hummed quietly and mused to himself, lightly fingering his
   notebook of verses.

   "Hmmmm," he said, "counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying
   metaphor ..." He considered this for a moment, and then closed the
   book with a grim smile.

   "Death's too good for them," he said.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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>>Scroll back.  ANY Thread......and you will see..... who is the first to post w/nonsense ?   Just look ?<<
Easy answer, you or flint... its sometimes a race between you two to see who can post the biggest pile of stupidity in one post...

>>As a great example.....as I tool the kids to continue..... they after being baited, hooked and landed.....they dopes STILL come back for more.
hehe.<<

You say that like you are the one trolling... I think you have things confused... whilst you never say anything relevant, a troll still needs to be intelligent, which is a critera you lack...



@Skoe, sorry man, if you haven't read HGTTG you are in fact an epicfail to all humanity yourself... But don't panic, just get your towel and head off to the library and read the trilogy, all 5 books...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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Well it is a trilogy in 5 parts...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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Go to page one......

Look at the MORONS as they checked in on the thread.

Selur, Skoe, Fool,


To be clear..... Schniep .... as I look back on Pg. 1.


Mundane, 9-5ers,

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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"Mundane, 9-5ers," ?

as in, civilians ?

till the end of time..

63 (edited by You_Fool 10-Apr-2009 23:03:32)

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BW: have you read from the start? The first person to make a post that was slightly insulting was selur, who wrote "Anyone that writes SENTENCES with RANDOM CAPITALISATION is a MORON and not worth READING." So he was commenting on your quoted paragraph of the book you were promoting, so was pretty much on topic...

Skoe's first post was merely whining about people saying there is a left and right wing, since he doesn't believe in that distinction...

then we have you...

"

Tell you all what......

Excuse the typeos.   You cant get past that, then Kiss my ass in Macy's window.

C if you can get over that.




More importantly, you all seem Pety FOOLISH, and EMPTY to not even bother answering.

I can see its a little deep and on target.



You on the left enjoy being victims, or being wards of the state in your bloated Govt. jobs going nowhere........simple and sedate in your mundane life w/o any ambition.

Fine.  Be a nobody.
Accomplish nothing.

Be happy in your boring nothing existence of 9-5 get over anyway You can life.

Last edited by Black_Wing (07-Apr-2009 16:31:53)"


Insulting and totaling idiotic post... I only come in after this.... since you have already started posting shit then it makes no matter what i post... which is my whole point..

Maybe before trying to claim the high ground you should actually make sure you have it...




>>"Mundane, 9-5ers," ?

as in, civilians ?<<

As in he knows nothing about us but thinks he does... I mean I don't work 9-5, I work 07:00-16:30 mon-thurs and 07:30-11:30 friday.... I am getting a pay rise this year despite the fact the CEO has said that no one would get a pay rise because of the recession, but has decided to make an exception for me because he doesn't want any risk of losing me to some other company.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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don't worry, he knows he lost and has run away like a little girl he is

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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You opened your mouth knowing what was coming

That wasn't so smart

Kick yourself in the butt

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and
adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups),
and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or
rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a
single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."  Department of Homeland Security report to American law enforcement, 2009

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Okay, BW, I have only made one complaint against the book: The issue of the author.


Unlike many of the other people who are opposed to reading the book, I'm not against reading conservative books.  Hell, I read Hannity's and Limbaugh's books.

There's only one issue: Levin is an example of the type of terrible debate that people should try to avoid like the plague.  On rare occasions, Levin is respectful to liberals who do call on his show.  However, the vast majority of the time, he throws out insults, just like some of the lowest debaters in this forum.  His arguments comprise of an insult, then maybe an actual argument, but there's always the possibility of hearing simply an assertion of conservatism.

There's two problems with it:
1: The insults in their own right ostracize populations, and thus prevent them from joining your group even if they start to agree with you.  If I hurl an insult, then make a logical argument, the person may accept my argument.  However, the insult becomes an overriding factor because it is an attack on their very integrity.  As a result, people will fight debaters like Levin only because he insulted them, rather than consider his ideas.

Consider it like if I were to kick you in the balls because you believe in, say, bombing Iran, whereas I want to try negotiating with them.  Then I presented an argument.  More than likely, you would resent me for kicking you in the balls.  As a result, if you did agree with me later on Iran, it would be seen as a submission to my power of kicking you in the balls.  Thus, you are FORCED to retain an ideology you know is wrong.


2: The insults create a dissolution of the burden of proof in a debate.  When we frame the other person in a debate as less than us, we assume we are, by default, better, either in intelligence, moral superiority, or whatnot.  At that point, since we are the superior of the two in our own eyes, our own ideals are superior, since they are held by us.  Thus, it becomes the burden of the opponent to prove to you that their idea is right.

That's bad: It means you always hold someone else to a higher standard than you hold yourself to, since you have framed them as lesser beings, through one of the character traits mentioned above.  Now, you believe you're right about what you believe.  And you may very well be right.  But if it takes a higher level of evidence for someone else to prove you wrong than it takes for you to reinforce your belief, how will you ever truly know you are right?



I've had some distaste for Limbaugh for the same thing, and have reduced my listening for it... though I really like Hannity.

This is the issue.  Not left vs right, but:
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