you dont make plans in pw cos its no draft -  im not in pw atm and therefore i have plans to play with friends for a while

Just like how Villa "plans" to win the Premiership?

Hang on flipmode dont go talking shit, Every single time you say my name you follow it up with a lie; whats with that?

I declared war on your fam and then proceeded to allocate your fam the core it deserved - Correct
I ended the war after your trying to make nice with me over PMs and long after our 'war' ended, i deleted :]

lol. hell dude, we even had a nap already

....was Espresso (1713)

1.Best Leader
White (1713) - difficult as we had a switch and Yuang (1713) must get a mention for his part as well

2.Best Diplomat
White (1713)

3.Best Attacker
Frapp (1713)

4.Best Banker
Instant (1713) - just how did you feed so many?

5.Best Resourcer

6.Best SS Player

7.Best First Rounder

8.Most Honorable Player
White (1713)

9.Least Honorable Player

10.Most Planet Fat Player
Espresso (1713) - i just know i got to win this one

11.Least Planet Fat Player
Frapp (1713) - ....i swear i would log on and find him at 2 on one day!

12.Favorite fam of the round
1713 (suprise)

13.Favorite Theme of the Round
"Coffee" (1713) - ....everytime i logged on i was thirsty

14.Favorite Family Picture of the Round

15.Favorite Forum Poster

16.Most Aggressive Fam
1726 - ....wow!

17.Least Aggressive Fam

18.Most Honorable Fam
1713

19.Least Honorable Fam

20.Most Planet Fat Fam

21.Least Planet Fat Fam

22. Biggest Noob of the round

23.Biggest Drop

24.Biggest Surprise of Round

25.Best Strategy of Round

26.Worst Mistake of Round

27.Favorite Quote of Round

28.Most debated topic

29. Rating round 1-10
....this round was okay....not the best but not the worst i have experienced so a 6/10 from me!

lol Cloud...

LOL @ cyclone

last time i talk about this.
I was the leader of 24 during half the round. somepoint i cant remember when and it was before the war with 23 i think, Mj came to us and asked a pnap. I decided to give the pnap cause it was HER and i wasnt willing to give nap to no other fam, but i said and i remember pretty well " i cant attack MJ and i want to giver her a nap." so i talked to her and i said i would need to have a big core in the nap, cause i did not wanted them to be used for other fams to sneak inside and get outposts to hit my fam. so we decided where was the systems they COULDNT enter .. and it was defined a box with the edge in 40,5. there were 7 planets of them inside and it was agreed that we would have those planets AND were decided my fam have could explore anywhere. So all set.. a week after her fam started to explore inside where they couldnt go, and asked me if they could remove mine and trymes spread. I said no and it was all agreed. But in somepoint my flawless english became a problem. I think that I said something, Tryme wanted another thing and MJ understood another thing. so all got messed up and MJ started to send me some msgs saying we were being not honorable and stuff. Me and Keerb talked and we tried to define a better nap and all seemed ok. I even took some planets of one of their player that keerb said wasnt a fam player, he was rogue and i could take it... a few hours laters the guy deleted.Then all started to be a mess.. MJ dont talk to me anymore, and i got pissed with the game and lost the will to play and did not played for the other half of the round almost.i played a bit during the war with 10 but not big deal. So, all i can say about this, is that was a big mess and confusion. Imo, big fams cant be mercy, cause friendship was confused with mercy and honour. I tried to do the best to my fam and at the same time to help my friend, but in the end both sides got hurted. Im sorry MJ if u dont want to talk to me anymore, this is a game, i consider u my friend and this was never to have hapened. Tryme is a decent boy and i changed my view about him after this round. Yes he talks a lot of crap, yes he is greedy and yes he is bully and a dick sometimes, but this is a role he plays in the game, and we find it everywhere.
I hope that my msg ends this talks.
It was nothing, never were attacks in terms of FARMING and it was always all about cleaning that sectors agreed in the prior nap.
anything happened after i stoped playing i cannot answer, as i really dont know about it, but i think nothing happened.

GL to u guys in the next round.

Did they not agree to it?

And...

from what Redlink said, change the NAP to be fairer afterwards?

(I'm only going by what i've read here)

I was writing another big msg here answering but i deleted. i dont want to continue this chat. we already had it in msn and u agreed that if u were in my spot u would do the same. bye

Are you crazy? We gained planets o_O
Are you considering the start of the war from the first random grab we made?

We war'ed early yes - But under the conditions i deemed it the best route to take, as did my family. We had larger fams with better positioned to our north and west, you guys were also considered a threat and that was our south flank - to the east we had allied so we just had the other 3 sides to consider. Your fam had a wave of bad luck and had some deletes i believe and it slowed you guys down properly. So in an attempt to get one up on those near us we took the opening to shave off a few planets from your fams p-count before another fam got in and beat us to it, leaving us with a 3rd/4th fam capable of being a problem later on. it was to early for portals to be coming in in bulk so was a matter of getting a few trannies, and bombers and mass sending. Which we did ^^ Sadly it didn't go as smoothly as it should due to others not being active enough but it was a partial sucess. We got a few more planets and the nap we wanted on top.

I deleted and left em in a vulnerable position? With just me as the only active player in the fam not much was going to happen. If they got raped it was simply sooner rather then later - I can hardly do a whole families work can i ^^