he wont

if any, i think north korea, but if theres a new war, he will prolly wait for the NATO

i forgot about that one!

however that isnt catching on yet.

The only one stocking is Nolio, he is stocking underaged asian girls, chicken and corn!

Obama is waging war on the prosperity of the American people. We're going to go from global leader to... well, sit back and watch.

Yup, but Blind Guardian can make claims like those because, even though the recession started under Bush, there is no way in hell (according to some) that anything Obama does would help to solve it. I'm not saying bailouts work, I've no idea, I'm saying that whatever Obama does - some people will hassle him either way.

Or maybe the original projections were just found to be incorrect? If things got worse than expected it does not mean it was Obama's fault or even that there would have been anything he could do about it.

SD, the recession is because of Clinton's stupid policies of giving poor people things they couldn't afford.

Obama is using the recession as an excuse to pass his party's agenda. Unless you are retarded enough to buy into the idea that massive credit spending is the solution to spending too much on credit, you've got no argument in favor of his "stimulus."

This isn't about Bush's (and a democratic Congress's) failures. Anyone who keeps making reference to Bush being responsible for everything any time anyone offers criticism of any of Obama's actions is a child and I don't care to have an embarassing enchange with you. Bush is responsible for what he's responsible for. That doesn't change our evaluation of Obama's actions. We're not as simple minded as you. We don't look at Obama and say "he do this, economy improve, Obama good!" Market performance is important (though effects on the market are often delayed, and so we're not just looking at this), but there's this thing called "history" and this field of study called "economics" that we can look to for important information as well. History and economics tell us that massive spending on credit cannot be solved by more credit spending. History and economics tell us that tax increases do not help the economy. Hell, common sense should tell you that one. History and economics tell us that tax inreases ONLY EVER hurt the economy.

We're discussing Obama's actions. Cry about Bush somewhere else. That Obama inherited a problem does not mean that he's not creating more.

Get an education. No one with a clue is even trying to make the argument that massive government deficit spending and higher taxes is going to help our economy.

Blind Guardian, I didn't say that the recession was Bush's fault, all I said is that it started during his term so blaming Obama for it would be silly. Yes, I appreciate Obama's actions could make things worse but that is for history to decide in 10 or 20 years and is pretty hard to judge from now. Obama will be being advised by top economists on his handling of the current crisis so I would expect his actions on the situation to be far more informed than either my or your opinions. I am sure it is possible to find alternative economists with alternative views but frankly in situations like this the side that people come down on is usually entirely driven by their own political bias. I have said in other threads that judgments on Obama's actions either favourable or not are largely meaningless at this stage in his presidency when the effects of his actions have not yet been seen. A good example of your own bias driven attitude is that you refute the arguments that Obama inherited problems but entirely ignore DYT's comment that the current problems were caused by Clinton.

Please stop mindlessly referring to everyone as children. It is very annoying. Just because people disagree with you doesn't make them wrong or stupid and overly aggressive or defensive posts are uncalled for and just make you look a bit silly.