"Hmz interesting thread. Arganon came as a good guy, or so I thought. I was almost drafted into his fam in the past"
Ooh so you are seccore99 then i guess ur stonned or drunk most of the time cos that guy could play ic at least ! 
" and he is good friends of my good friends so figured he was indeed a good friend."
Im only friend to thoes who behave nicly towards me.
"He kept talking about how he wants to get small guys going when I jhave jumped every single guy that's in my fam... "
We have never talked about this ???
"I've been there since day one watching everyone be inactive and doing what I could with the little time I had... "
If you lack time perhaps you should find another player to hand over leadership to ?
"I have been saving for a week and decided to use some to jump a banker and was going to jump in a couple days to start fighting"
Suire thats a plan do out of the blue 3 new guys enters and a 4th are on the way and then you need to change ur plans.
Get new guys going to get 3 attackers involved in the war instead of 1 this is well woth the extra time it will take to jump infra and gain a spread for the new members.
" and give small attackers a small jump to help after I ran people's fleets. Well.. "
Why not jump the small guys FIRST as thier jumps are so cheap ?
"I had planned everything out and I was pretty inactive the other day so I sent all my savings to arganon thinking he would use some for elping people"
A fam bank thoesnt resent to aider its spend on the fam once a person once more are bank he collects new resurces.
I did aid all that wanted it and my 2 drafts but not many responded that day....
" out and give back when I needed since I didn't have time to figure out how much was needed...
You didnt tell me you wanted anything back thus I asumed I was taking the fam bank.
"Anyways I asked for my savings back the next day and he gave me back 1 mil iron and 200k endu (after I sent him over 5 mil iron and a ton of endu)...
A bank thoesnt resend to aider but distrubute the resurces within the fam.....
" Well he said he had none left and had given some to people and sold on market and used on himself..."
I had a bit more left then I thought but is bad memory a crime ? 
" He had only sent 300k gc to spendius and that was it.... "
I had sent some to my 2 drafts and had fb my first planet and had made some fleet and a bit of eships.
the rest was to get thing going fast once we new picked up a few planets.
If we had been given a few spread out planets taking up more planets would have taken shorter time then the case was now.
"mizzle spied on him and showed me that he still had 4 mil iron left so I told him to give it back or he's rogue."
Fiirst off you dont first send bank to someone and THEN threaten him.
Do you really think someone weill resend that bank after that have happend ?
If you do that you got nothing between your ears.
If we come on wrong to eachother from the start you TALK it out and solve the problems.
Making me rogue AINT a good solution nither for me you or the fam.
This aint a sign of good leadership abilities.
" this fam was doing just fine, moved up from rank 25th throughout the round."
Doing just fine ?
Rank 19 fine ?
WOW really ?
it would have been true if you have had said rank 4-1 yup but this is crap.
rank19 isnt a rank you protect.
"arganon thinks it's wise to attack and take 5 planets from a fam with no infra when I will lose tons of planets that are 1000-1300% ob myself... "
wise ?
how shall i get a spread ?
no members give me planets for spread.
Round is so late that few planets are explorable.
what options remain but targetting disputed planets for nonnaps ?
You lost 1 planet do you sound like u lost 100.
"The only reason I lost 1 planet was because I talked to 590 and let them know that arganon was going against orders otherwise... I would have lost at least 15 planets by now, probably more as I had no defense.... "
Dream on you got no figures only dreams....
If you are so good you should know that in this instance you do the following.
Keep 1 planet a system.
Givve spread out planets in systems you got several planets to new players to get them out of reach for 590.
thus you get the new ppl spread becomes harder to hurt badly and get a attackadvantage against 590.
As you would be pslim against them.
"So yea, I gave arganon one last chance to give me my stuff back and he refused and threatened to kill me and the fam"
Dont start to lie !:S
I have never had any intentions of that sort against the fam.
Attacking you however ?
Yup someone start to hit yoiu while you are aiding "YOUR" fam of couse Ill explode who wouldnt ?
This fam thoes however need a new leader cos frankly you suck and I wont as I dont know players and becouse of this shit to ill stand aside for this vote.
But I wont mind aiding a player who are ready to take over the fam as leader.
" so as I have zero tolerance for threatening my fam.... "
But failing to inform new members...
And threaten players THATS ok ? :S
And man thats a behviour I have 0 tolernce for.
"I made him rogue for good. I gave him one last chance and he refused so I'm killing him off now.
Who the hell do you think you are ?
God ?
You suck !
You cant aid your fam you dont exploit new active players to get your fam going you hog fam savings for yourself.
Why the hell havent you DELETED alreday ?
" I op'ed a ton of my iron that he won't give back but if I don't kill him off, he'll jump and kill the fam.... "
YOUR iron ?
isnt that iron collected from the FAM ?
WHEN HAVE I THREATEN THIS FAM YOU MOORON ?
"so it's a lose-lose situation.
Sure is cos of a fool who cant run a fam and fly off the bend as something out of the expected happens.
You manage to sound as you have lost 100 planets when you lost 1.
YOU LACK BALLS MAN !
" Instead of getting a good 2-3 decent wars this round,"
YOUR NOT ATTACKER MAN ! :S
100 wars is a nice number.
2-3 is ppl playing Imperial Economy !:S
Checkl the game name plz and think a bit if its at all possible !:P
" I have to waste my time with some dishonorable punk that doesn't know how to play the game as a fam."
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Dishonourable ?
I wich to spread income from fam among all members.
To get new going.
To get old ob.
to get the fam ready for some wars where ALL active players can take part so we can cross into top10.
Are your recent behaviour a sign that you are good at TEAMPLAY ?
Im sry but here I go again.
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