Re: dollar collapsing

i invest in gold instead

look even Zimbabwe went to peg their dollars not to US dollars but to south africa's krugerrand

Re: dollar collapsing

Aussie Dollar isnt worth shit because the country is going to suffer from a lack of water.
The only reason it shot pack up to par from 0.5 was because of the commodity prices.

Canada is in a much better position than Australia. Better balance of resource and manufacturing.

The rest of the world is starting to mumble about reserve currency and the US has no answer.
If that happens The greenback will tank and all that cheap imports will dissapear.

53 (edited by tavius 28-Mar-2009 06:02:06)

Re: dollar collapsing

Yes the Chinese yuan is stable and trades within a range currently but only because it's manipulated by the government for years to peg it to USD. Is that the ideal? Ofc when you change the way it's been and float it there's intially going to be alot of volatility, but it should settle at a much higher level relative to the USD.

And currency strength is important especially if the currency is fully exposed to market forces as its an indication of people's confidence in your economy and demand for your country's products. This is what supports a fully floating currency and China has both of those. The fact that it has huge savings ($2T worth) of foreign currency only increases confidence in the country's ability to handle economic problems and keep its budget funded without resorting to printing if it can't finance through debt issue...etc etc.

Aussie dollar is a long way from par with U.S and yea it is a good currency along with Canadian to invest as both these country's economies are heavily in commodities which will prolly recover once everyone realises we're at the doorstep of heightened inflation. U.S dollar holders might like gold but you'd be paying a premium relative to alot of other commodities and where it's been and there are many examples in history when gold has been confiscated by the govt so it isn't exactly an ironclad solution against LT inflation.

Euro is a flawed concept, I somehow feel they'll tweak it eventually. Pound is overvalued in the med-longterm.

Between yuan and Aussie yes I would go with Aussie as it's dropped alot from where it was just 1.5 years ago and I believe in the future for commodities but my post was abt your depiction of Chinese yuan.

And yes Hillary was there to talk to the Chinese about buying the U.S treasury bonds that are going to be issued like a tsunami. Who else has the hard dough to take up the slack? The other alternative is to print and buy but the inflation would be -grossly- ridiculous (see Zimbabwe).

54 (edited by Black_Wing 28-Mar-2009 14:55:45)

Re: dollar collapsing

@ Phoenix

Look up Zimbabwe's Trade partners.......Maybe you will find an answer there.
I will bet you will find a HUGE trade parter for them in S. Africa.,.... Prob in export and import.
Also, Isnt Zimbabwe in hyper-Inflation ?


@ Tavius

Yes, but, if you are china, or the major capitalists around the world that have invested heavily into China......do you think they want Instability ?

The Currency must show BALANCE.....  Can it purchase abroad, as Weill as support its value long-term ?

China is a nation that NEEDS foreign purchase of its goods that are replicated on its soil because of low labor costs.
China produces goods, that is people cant purchase.
India is the same way.....

You want to say the Rupee (sic?) can be a stable self-supporting currency ?

The Russian Ruble ..... what about that ? 


Tell you what.  You have faith in the Yuan.  You  see the future....purchase Yuan then.  Im no guru.


What I do see is that the US Dollar is STILL the benchmark, no matter how much money is printed by the Fed.
Interest RATES are WAY down on treasuries.

Why is that ??

Because, as leftist as the US Govt. has become, as far more RADICAL (to the US Business model, but not to you Europeans) projects are dreamed up by a CLUELESS President of the US, .......  The US Dollar is still a safe haven for stability and wealth preservation.

But, to be fair...... If you spread your wealth in US Treasuries, Euro bonds, and Yen futures,  That gives you balance and cover to weather this global storm and preserve your wealth.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

Re: dollar collapsing

BTW.... stability means projection.

If you have a currency, say the Dollar, vs. the say Euro...... you know you have a pre-determined balance w/i a certain range of value for the foreseeable future.


I make a trade deal with my company to buy X product from your foreign company over a contract of X time-period.
Options: 
1.  I could use any foreign competitor for X Product.
2.  I could use a domestic maker of X product.
3.  Or I could use your X Product.


What makes me sign a long term deal with a foreign producer of X Product ?

First consideration after understanding that the producer can deliver the contracted product is
1.  Import/Export laws and taxation.
..... A.  is there a tariff or the possibility of a tariff looming ?

2.  Price point......
.... A.  Will the economic situation in X producers country change the price point in the desired future ?
.... B.  How will the EXCHANGE VALUE of the cross over of currency effect price point in the desired future ?


You need STABILITY in a currency to not only hold its value, but to not become inflated or deflated.

the YUAN is held in place by not only US Treasuries, but EUROs, Pound Sterling, and YEN as well.


follow ?

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.