its a page back :-)

Hi Torqez,

Thank you very much for your responce. I can understand and agree with what you are saying. What has happened after the last days action is that we have cleared them out of our systems and they have done the same to us. Well alomst but sure it will not take them long to finsh.

Perhaps there should be a new thread with what is expected from new players and fam's. If there was one I must have missed it as I did read every forum on here.

3 years ago I played two rounds and got killed without war being declared, last round I played the same things happened. Both times from experienced players. If the old players want to keep this game just for them so be it. They get away with it and new players try to get on in the game and they gang up. Well that kind of explains why IC is losing players. Old ones are leaving and no new blood is allowed a chance.

I will always agree a time period for a NAP or Alley. I will always agree terms and stick to it. I did not see it as a loop hole but there stupidity. And they way the surrounded us on 3 sides was a tactic for them to take us. So all in all I am ok with what my family and I have done. This is based on what has happened to me in past rounds and what rules I have found on here.

This is the some total of what the older players call honor and is what I found on the main forums. If you don't like what we did updated it so a new player knows what you guy expect from us. Don't just hunt us down and destroy the game.

Honour:

Honour is not a strategy or a tactic which attackers require to be successful, but it is an ideal which attackers require to be good players.
Attacking and raiding much lower ranked fams is considered dishonourable.

A standard NAP is a 48hr NAP. It is and always has been in this game for about 9+ years at least.
All received messages from 40 contradict their current behavior.
There is no way around this, the are lame wankers.

And Ian, please learn to use the edit button. I cant be arsed to read through 8+ messages.

Thank you for showing why people leave the game due to your language and insult.

I have been leader for about 3 weeks and I have not sent you messages until war and all in responce to yours.

If your only responce is the use of insults then fine I will keep playing this round and then leave IC.

I think this poem I wrote a while back kind of somes up where IC is going when people can not have a proper discussion.

Along the road of tattered souls,
Venturing forward, no where to go.
No where to go, but straight ahead,
walking with the battered, the broken, the dead.

Among those who walk, walking alone,
The wind bites and sends a chill through your bones.
The trees bend and break, and then seem to stare,
Leaves on the ground, pain in the air.

Alone, you walk onward, your tattered past gone,
But scars, in and out, though you hide them are shone.
No where to go, but straight ahead,
Walking with the battered, the broken, the dead

@ Just Someone - This is the type of player that IC does not need. He has not even read the post that other agree with. I am on here trying to sort thing out. Attempting to understand the game better, finding out the hidden rules designed by old players.

I have a lot of respect for "jeffyyy" he is a great attacker. And he just came back at us, not bad language, not stupid messages and usless chat, he organised his fam and still is to make the best counter attacks he can. Also from his above post he says he was trying to protect his fam against us, it was spotted and dealt with. He understands the game and just gets on with it. I fell that is what the game is about, please correct me if I am wrong. Outsider views are welcome.

P.S. I could have just replied "well you are a ****** ****, get over it and **** your own ***. But lets be honest that does no good for the game :-)

Thanks jeffyy,

Respect to you.

We all have an opinion, so you don't like the poem, I have no problem with that. The way people put things across is important.

Ok in reply to your message.

1. In about 3 weeks as leader I never got a message about Bluntman being in your core.
2. 48hour clause, I challange you to find anywhere in FAQ or GUIDE that says 48 hours clause.
3. I did not break the rules, I was just played without honour. But with no information on the guides how am I to know this?

Please seriously I have looked in every forum, guide and FAQ after being raped in past round by experienced players. If you want I will go through and copy and paste what the guides and FAQ say about NAPS. But I don't want to be assused of spamming again :-)

And also the guide on newb.. attacking says about honour but say nothing about 48 hours. Only a war,NAP or Alley has to last at least 48 hours (from when signed), and when you end a war you can not attack for 48 hours (both built into the system). Geez I am not a mind reader.

"1. Bluntman NOT returning planets as promised when NAP was made.
2. You not honoring the 48hr cancellation time.
3. You not immediately correcting your actions upon hearing you broke the rules."

1:
"Week 13, 3

bluntmans going to return those planets, and we now have a naP with 1740

Signed, Dhes Deraun of Fenix Order (1747)"
So you should be wrong there..

2:Can be excused, we were wrong to expect you, as a new player, to know about unwritten rules

3:you didn't know you were wrong..
But the problem is still there. Blunman was going to return a couple of planets but didn't and now he takes those systems he has a portlal in...

PMing my leader's email to ya. he should be online in a couple of hours

Incompetence all the way, true, Rizzy.
But as you say it, you don't break a NAP without honoring the cancellation time, never.

And if this stuff isn't in the guides and virgo newbie guides anymore, things have seriously deteriorated in the past 3 years while I been gone. I joined 47 only a small 3 weeks ago when the round had long started, so of course I dont know every detail of ever agreement, I just asumed things were still the same, and people had balls etc.

Let's see how we can work this out.

I am here replying, speaking to you sorting things out from the info I have.

Still no need for comments like "and people had balls etc."

I read the Guides, FAQ, Rules and did not break them. I have answered your posts and will try to find an agreement both fams are happy with.

As a noob advice from players is welcome. Get some balls does not help IC in anyway :-)