I AGREE  COMPLETELY!!!

That has been my argument against the death penalty as long as I can remember....

Although, my better proposal is that you tell Inmates they are on death row, and treat them like it but in reality there will be no such thing...so they live in fear of their set date

I am a father of 3 and I am only legally obligated to feed and take care of my children until they are 18.  You're telling me that its justice that although I would rather (and most all other law abiding citizens) would like to spend my money on my family that instead I am legally obigated to pay threw my taxes for room and board, meals, cable tv, electricity, toilet paper, soap, laundry, education, medical... ect for someone who killed someone for there rest of there life?

Ermmm how is that fair?

Not to mention its a double screw over for the families of the victims.  They have to go out everyday to work a job to not only pay there bills but they also get to pay for the murder to sleep all day away in a cell or reading a book or watching ESPN while eating food that they have paid for - yup that sounds fair too doesn't it?  Talk about the humilation of living your life out, to know that not only some ass killed your loved one - but now you are being forced to allow him to rob to each pay check to pay for his upkeep.

> BeoWolfe wrote:

> You're telling me that its justice that although I would rather (and most all other law abiding citizens) would like to spend my money on my family that instead I am legally obigated to pay threw my taxes for room and board, meals, cable tv, electricity, toilet paper, soap, laundry, education, medical... ect for someone who killed someone for there rest of there life?

there is no situation where being legally obligated to pay taxes is justice....

in the US, there are added appeals that are required to put someone to death, and the state must pay for; results in significantly higher average costs for sentencing someone to capital punishment then life imprisonment.

you eliminate the appeals and you increase the number of innocent people murdered by the state.

it becomes less effective as a deterrant, more innocents are killed, less guilty people are caught. and murdering innocents to discourage the murdering of innocents is self-defeating.

how so?

Mr. Rooster, you only argued against relatively painless death sentences. Public hangings would still be cool by you? Because that's what I'd like!

I shall consider this a challenge, await my posting tomorrow.

I agree with Cloud. You're all a bunch of fags.

You all seem to be focusing on punishment and revenge at the cost of ignoring that Western society is built on an enlightened vision of the world, which includes "[forgiving] those who trespass against us". Lets not forget that 10-15% of criminals are rehabilitated and can go on to lead successful lives. 10-15% might not seem like much return considering, as Primo pointed out, the what we currently invest in the prison system, but ask yourself this: should those 10-15% be denied that chance simply because we don't want to spend money? We can throw 1 trillion in a banking system that has proven to have major faults, but not spend even half that trying to help people?

>Lets not forget that 10-15% of criminals are rehabilitated and can go on to lead successful lives.

10-15% of criminals that committed murder and get rehabilitated are still serving life in prison and have no benefit to society.

Here in California the average actual jail time served by someone who gets sentenced to life in prison is just 4 years. Nuts like you are running California and look what it's doing to us. Our public education is ranked 47th out of 50. Our budget has been so out of control that previously the state spent money it didn't have because some economy forecasts said there was a good chance we'd have that cash in the future.

Why do you sympathize with the criminal instead of the victim?