Topic: 1740: As dishonorable as shit

Without any notice in a message, 1740 cancelled the nap with 1747 and declared war, and did a surprise attack.
Gz 40, you have no life or honor.

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2 (edited by just someone 22-Mar-2009 10:10:37)

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Ian of HK
hmmm, is this the Ian tard that also has been around in IC for 5+ years, or is it someone with the same name? smile

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I think there are 2 Ians..   Atleast I used to work with one anyway..

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No Opti that was Steve remember?

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Either way he has just started attacking us without letting us know anything.. the b*tch
Isn't a standard nap 48h?

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Ye it is, we even got msges confirming the 48hr-ness. It's just lame smile
But no worries, the moans here aren't the only thing we're gonna do to retal, they got another thing comin.

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Ye Rizzy, they did it all in 1 tick, cancel the ingame nap and declare the war immediately after, and attacked within 2 ticks.

btw, I don't think it's the real Ian from years ago, judging from his messages he isn't much older than 13 smile
And that Ian from before actually had brains wink

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wow some one besides me can know who they re tal;king to just by the verbage they use,

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Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, but he just gargled.

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too bad he didn't suffocate in the fountain.. now we need to kill him ourselves tongue

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Metaphores are just imaginary shields for an undeniable truth.

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He was distinguished for ignorance; for he had only one idea and that was wrong.

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So 40 broke NAP on 47?

Show proof of 48h NAP plz

14 (edited by Dhes 22-Mar-2009 22:42:31)

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we should have seen it comming, they also asked if we wanted to be allies earlier on, and before we got back to them they hit our core tongue

any way, after talking about cores being hit:

from 1740:

Week 11, 3
so you looking for a nap?

Signed, Bluntman of Bluntman (1740)


and their leader:

Week 13, 3
a nap sounds good i cpuld tell those who have planets in your core to explore others and they could hand them out to your faw
Signed, Hammerfall of SH ethernal king (1740)


then i responded:

Week 13, 3, to Hammerfall of SH ethernal king (1740)
all right, thanks, i'll sign it now. Let me know if any of my guys come a little to close to your core and i will return the favor.

Its currently just 3 planets by bluntman, and i'm sure he knows which ones. smile



Nap was signed in-game afterwards.

I'd post the notification that the nap was going to be canceled, but their was none.

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Okay...well I have a sort of agreement with 40...not sure if I can trust it now.  Maybe I should clear them.

40...whats ur side of the story?

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Im Coming For 40 smile

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Gang bang on 40! big_smile

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no response, im sure they know what they did.  go ahead and kill them!

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I thought form the beginning when we first had a nap, you guys owed us 2 planets.. and were in our core which we asked multiple times for you to get out (bluntman)... which never happened and put us in the situation we are in..

Have no fear though! have a couple days off from work to do some other work tongue   its a shame to have to get beat up by a smaller family

20 (edited by Dhes 23-Mar-2009 05:07:17)

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A standard nap is usually 48 hours isnt it? and yea Yoshi, i posted the msg 1740 sent saying they'd give us those core back.  Instead they kept them and recently tried to sneak there allies in their and lied about it, obviouslly they were planning this for awhile.

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It is ok.. it will be delt with. not as swiftly as liked but will be handled tongue

22 (edited by Ian 23-Mar-2009 07:43:08)

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Torqez asked fro proof of a 48 hours NAP, none hase been supplied as there was not one. As for all NAPS being standard where is that in the rules. The reason it is hard for a new player like me to stay in the game and stop it falling apart as it looks like it is from the forums, is due to the fact you have made all these additional rules that are not visable for a new player.

I ended the NAP, I declared WAR, then we went to war as per what the system lets you do. I am not saying it is right or wrong but it is part of the game.

But as a new player, the HATE MAIL recieved means I will fight this war but may not return to IC after. There are too many other good games with players that accept war as part of the game and don't moan about it.

Also if they had an attacker in there core they are stupid for leaving them there, if they had no defences so a pop banker like me can take 30 planets with little to not force, it's there own fault this has happened. I have had no messages from this family the last 3 weeks I have been leader. Not a single message. So the problem could not have been that important to them.

I played a couple of rounds before and got raped with no war being declared. I did not come to the forums to moan. I learned to be stronger and not leave myself open to attack. I read every forum, every strat guild I could get hold of, now I am very active as I see this as the only way to win against old timers that are all friends. It's not new players like me destroying the game, it all you guys ganging up on new guys trying to get ahead in the game. If you have your own set of rules that are not in forums then tell the new guys, we do not read minds.

Simple fact is 1747 was to our North, East and West. We had no where to go and they explored close and into our systems when they had other places to go. So it was decided that the only way for us to keep alive was attack first. At least I declared WAR. Last round I went from 60 planets to zero in 24 hours... by one attacker.

I think they are just annoyed we did it before they where going to. I have tried to agree NAPS with other fams and I specify terms in detail. From my experience that is was I know. If it is ment to be 48 hours after a NAP that should be built into the game so everyone knows. Not just the old timers that gang up on the new guys and in the end will destroy this game....

If you want to talk to me like an adult then I am open to that, my msn is [email protected].

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"I ended the NAP, I declared WAR, then we went to war as per what the system lets you do. I am not saying it is right or wrong but it is part of the game."

Having a NAP is one thing.  If no time was allocated to the cancellation period (ie the time before you can attack, without giving notice), then 'technically' by the rules you've done nothing wrong.

However, a game standard is a 48h nap, but yes that should be specified (ie, some people make it 24h, 72h, or heaps of variations, like "don't explore in these set systems" etc).  At least sufficient warning for people to give them a fair chance.

Why?  Else you could NAP people, under that pretense.  Explore/Gain planets close to them, wait to portal.  And then cancel NAP, declare War and attack immediately.  And no, not everyone checks Relations Page every tick of the game.

But ofcourse, you're right.  These are just norms built into the game by the 'old' players.  And its become standardised.  It's become unwritten laws which some players abide by.  We like to honour them.  Ofcourse, you have no technical thing against you, that you 'can' cancel and attack without warning - however it's just frowned upon and people consider it extremely dishonourable.

Why?  Cos we play to have fun, and when people take advantage of loopholes (ie, "no time was specified for nap cancellation"), then it pisses people off, and ruins their fun.

It gets annoying when people work hard for their empires/fams - and then it all gets screwed because of a misunderstanding.