Topic: Obama bends over for Iran, Iran says no thanks

Well the much publicized online Statement from Obama to Iran has gotten it's chance, and Iran says "you idiots have not changed" and will not negotiate with us.

Obama was told this would happen by Republicans, to bad he has the IQ of a turtle and the ability to hide in his shell when it comes to making actual required decisions.

So now the Iranians reject us, the N. Koreans are pushing their weapons program forward, our economy is tanking faster than the old ruble crisis for Russia, and there is millions of protesting Republicans planning the largest national protest ever on April 15th.


So I ask you, is Obama the best pick you Democrats had?

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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2 (edited by Justinian I 21-Mar-2009 21:00:55)

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ROFLMAO!

My best pick is a military government. I had enough of the idiots on both sides.

And please, execute Nancy Pelosi for treason.

Our military also needs to stop being soft. We need to be ruthless. By that I mean carpet bombing cities.

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> sad sKoE )= wrote:

> Your military would collapse pretty darn quickly if it tried to take over your political spectrum and started to carpet bomb cities outside of your country... tongue>

Not under the right circumstances smile

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Carpet bombing Tehran could solve a lot of issues.. but also would be a lil immorral for those slaves they keep there.

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It's called paraphrasing, get over it, and learn to understand others infidel!

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Another fine example of Obama being a dumbass. The internet? The day after Leno? This president has class!

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So wait, let me get this straight. Trying to make peace and end hostile actions in an entire continent is being an idiotic leader?

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How many years of Republican presidency have Iran been apparently trying to develop nuclear weapons? Did the Republican strategy work? It seems like a good idea to try something different to me...:P

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The same thing happened under Clinton and Carter. I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, I'm just saying the obvious that they didn't make any progress. If your panties get in a twist when reading the truth you're a little out of line.

"Trying" to make peace and end hostile actions isn't smart or idiotic, but claiming you can do much better than those before you then getting a same-day response of "nuclear program is ahead of schedule!" isn't a sign of a favorable response from a government which is open to working with you.

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I wasn't claiming that Obama's webcast speech was effective but if certain people are going to criticise him for it while defending to the hilt every action and policy of the Republican party then they clearly need the obvious pointed out to them that the Republican policy didn't work! Time to try something new!

As for me, I'm not even American so describing myself as either Democrat or Republican would be beyond retarded.

tweehonderd graden, dat is waarom ze me mr. fahrenheit noemen, ik reis aan de snelheid van het licht, ik ga een supersonische man van u maken

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the onyl thing separating us from Iran is they are kooks who hate us and plot violence against us

so

I wonder why we'd change to be more like them to get along

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Interesting... and I bet it means doom for Ahmadinejad.


I actually think that both Republicans and Democrats were doing the right thing at the right time when they were in office.

My theory was that Ahmadinejad's foreign policy was based in large part on the price of oil.  When the price of oil was higher, Ahmadinejad has power over the United States, and he can do whatever he wants, including waging a holy war against Israel.  That meant that the US was forced to take a hardline stance, because we had no power at the time... Ahmadinejad has money, so he sees himself as invincible.

But with the price of oil low, and Iran's economy in shambles, I believed he would mellow out a little bit, as what seemed to happen in October and November during the start of the financial crisis.  As a result, I thought Obama just happened to come into office at the perfect time for negotiation to be successful, as now the balance of power was in the hands of the United States.

Think of it this way:
You're playing a game of IC, warring another family.  When you're winning the war, if you come to the negotiating table, you can make all kinds of demands.  But if you're losing the war, you have to bend over and give up.

If we would have negotiated with Iran last year, when oil was at $100 per barrel, we would have needed to give Iran a ton of shit to stop their program.  Now, with the financial crisis, Iran's economy is in the shit hole, and Iran's people know it.  In addition, Iran's people know that it is their leader's fault that their economy is in shambles, because every other oil nation (aside from Venezuela) set up an OSF (a fund of oil money to store for when oil prices fall), yet Ahmadinejad spent his fund.

Now, what does this mean now that Iran pushed us aside?  It means Iran can't get the sanctions removed, so they can't spend what they've been spending for the past year.  That means less social programs, and less food and gasoline subsidies for the people.  And Iran can't raise taxes, because they tried establishing a 3% sales tax.  The result: the Iranian bazaars, the financial sector of the country, went on strike.  tongue

What happens?  Economic collapse!  Hatred of the government by the people!  Utter anarchy, and the overthrowing of Ahmadinejad in exchange for a government whose primary concern is to remove the international sanctions so that Iran can get back into the financial system and save itself from ruin.

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yeah I gotta say, it's kinda weird for a guy to make a comment out in the open like that. No straight guy likes to even have those thoughts in their head =/

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Obviously the point that Obama's weight means nothing to anyone is lost on the retards of the forum. Hello, retards!

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I apologize to everyone for the crying kid who spams every thread I post in. I made him cry and he's not over it yet.

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19 (edited by Chris_Balsz 22-Mar-2009 08:03:07)

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Obama, pitcher or catcher?

Chris Matthews DID say he got a tingle up his leg listening to Obama so its not unheard of

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I'm still trying to figure out the first post in this thread. From where I sit, it's a 50/50 shot that Iran either agrees or disagrees to terms of peace. Why is it so stupid to try it? I'm not a politician or anything so perhaps I'm missing it =p

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you should be a big fish politician Eienstiemier, because you flip under heat so quick by the time your dead, your ready to eat.
and America loves food..... especially the poor ones.
that republicans "like you seem to be" think that as long as i got.... screw everyone else.... well, look around.... your not even close to the best at it (having enough) so whose side are you on, the ones that are going to tell you "that's your problem" or the one that says this is our right as Americans,,, why isn't it the right of all humanity.
quickly defined it could seem zealous... but if everyone truly had a voice in what happened in the world, a lot of simple stuff could be solved, which would there by, crack a lot of the smoke and mirrors that really exist in the world.
that are designed in pure nature to divide us against each other.

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i even think some times you get your persona from rUSh lImBaUgE... and WOW he's the biggest hip-o-krite (hypocrite) that has ever existed, except for????????????????? OK he's actually the biggest one period.... big_smile
but you really concern me mostly, because anyone that cannot accept that they are wrong once in a while.... the closer i get to them the less chance they have of............  lets just say lots of things can happen.
if king louie had been allowed to live... he might just have learned a life lesson.... but because of in-breading i Doubt it.
we are a people ... or we are nothing.
one stick breaks easily, for every 10 you add the ability to break it decreases, so the more you bond the stronger you are.

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This just in: Iran announcing great success with its nuclear program the day after Obama addresses them is a great accomplishment for Obama!

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Was Obama's address really meant to change the course of Iran's policies or nuclear programme within one day? Judging the results of Obama's policies towards Iran within such a short timescale is as Fancsali himself would put it, retarded.

tweehonderd graden, dat is waarom ze me mr. fahrenheit noemen, ik reis aan de snelheid van het licht, ik ga een supersonische man van u maken

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sKoE: Iran openly wishes to see the destruction of Israel and the West as a whole. Iran openly states that aquiring nuclear arms will be the biggest possible step toward this goal. You just proposed that Iran seeks nuclear power (because they can't find enough oil to cheaply produce energy?), not weapons. That's just a stupid claim.

I merely stated that Iran's response was not one which suggests progress is coming, Sitting Duck.

Obama's speech was weak. He said nothing of freedom, democracy, human rights abuses, or nuclear arms. Even his weak speech inspired Iran to immediately respond with statements that their nuclear program is near fruition. Those statements were not open to compromise and international talks.

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