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How many skyscrapers fell in NY on 9/11?

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I forgot

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You might be right and not even know it.
THREE buildings collapsed that day.
9/11 truth would make saving this country a lot easier.

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And didnt other buildings fall in the following days because they were damaged and/or destroyed on purpose and unsafe?

Is it truth or is it just that we get reminded about the most 'interesting' buildings, or the ones that were targeted.

Are you one of the conspiracy theory-type people?

I've posted way too much today :-(

Gondor: wtf, im not even mentioned. I was the glue to this family. Thats BS!
Econ: Gondor, if you were the glue, then I was the glue sticky thing that applies the glue.
(edit: I believe that's called the brush).
Torqez: Econ you forgot the part where you say "and I made Torqez delete!"

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ha, are you a cattle-shute type person?
No steel structures have ever fallen from fire, I still believe it.
Watch building 7 come down and tell me it wasn't a controlled demolition and I will tell you to get glasses!

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Oh dear God, another nut case

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Ahh cmon! No name calling fellas smile
Talk to me about building 7. Make me see the error of my ways.

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> CMXILies wrote:

> ha, are you a cattle-shute type person?
No steel structures have ever fallen from fire, I still believe it.
Watch building 7 come down and tell me it wasn't a controlled demolition and I will tell you to get glasses!



Here is an example of me not replying to a post that I could rip apart, but just really can't be bothered to do so. I've written my profession in another thread. I'm qualified and experienced enough to talk about these things, but for a nut case, I won't bother.

Gondor: wtf, im not even mentioned. I was the glue to this family. Thats BS!
Econ: Gondor, if you were the glue, then I was the glue sticky thing that applies the glue.
(edit: I believe that's called the brush).
Torqez: Econ you forgot the part where you say "and I made Torqez delete!"

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I doubt you would listen, but later I will post my proofs, including a new one.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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:-( ouch guys!
What constitutes being a nut case? I am grounded and reasonable wink Let ye be assured.
Ok, you won't talk about building 7 I guess.
How about the molten metal below 1, 2 and 7?
I want to believe!!!

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I'm here to exchange, I would be glad to read your proofs.

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Also, it is curious that the manifests from all 4 flights listed neither the names of the hijackers, or any Arab names whatsoever..

Sept. 23, 2001: Condoleezza Rice: "

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yeah a nut

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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OK OK, just call me names tongue
pretty weak guy

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Look they have video of these guys and showed it.

They showed the flights passenger lists and  other nuts tried to say those arabs are still alive in other nations then.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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What? The video of Osama claiming responsibility? That chubby man was writing with his right hand and wearing a watch. Not Osama.
I don't know about any other videos. I'm interested though.

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Reading material: Anything by David Ray Griffin. He has written extensively on the subject.

This discussion doesn't have to be belligerent.
I will discuss this respectfully with anyone.
I apologize if I haven't done so thus far.

I have some very grounded and serious questions that I would like to discuss.

If anyone would like to join me I welcome you personally!

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That is because the Iranian propaganda dept is working.

Your believing a lot of lies.

Jeez I could go over the evidence on a pure statistical basis and over it with a physics example. Sigh, what an idiot, he is either Chinese, Iranian, Al Queada (sp?), or Russian. N. Korea don't let their people online, so cannot be them.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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I am a sovereign citizen of the State of Pennsylvania.
As a fellow citizen of the United States I beg you to Investigate 9/11!
We live in very interesting times, we should all do our part to determine the truth of matters for ourselves.

You make it sound so easy! Throw some stuff out there!
Don't just poke fun at the messenger.

20 (edited by CMXILies 21-Mar-2009 05:00:04)

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Research Iran in the 1950's. We basically overthrew Mossadeque and installed the Pro U.S. Shaw. Countless disapearances and tortures ensued.
Sheesh, why wouldn't Iran trust us? Our foreign policy is beyond deplorable.

Empire building is never a tidy thing.

sad sKoE )=
I am sorry I couldn't start a proper debate. It certainly does deserve one.
I seldom do things in the optimum manner.

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Yeah he is an Iranian.

His context has been off all night, he is new, and his hours are interesting to say the least.

I guess it figures they would expand their program with Obama in place.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3c3_1214933242


Notice how it is mostly within a certain range of it's base, instead of a full length on the ground?

As for your 'steel does not melt' bull crap

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ff1_1210707903

As evidenced here, in a fire elsewhere in the world, it can, and does melt, and with devestating effects.  Notice the vast majority of the collapse looks 'controlled'. This is an effect of physics.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=35f_1185295454

A small amount of the debris here went to the street, most to the base of the structure.


Steel sheering under stress:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b5e_1212429185


http://www.tooshocking.com/videos/2124/Shocking_Building_Collapse


Fire does not burn steel again:

http://www.tooshocking.com/videos/2124/Shocking_Building_Collapse



And people always forget what was added to the WTC buildings:

http://www.zephyrus.co.uk/aircraftmetalsanswer.html

Flame temperatures of magnesium and magnesium alloys can reach 1,371

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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I am not from Iran. Based on the evidence you cited that sounds like a conspiracy theory.
I used to play IC back in the tri-alliance flint jump era. Beyond that, just check my IP and you'll see that is nonsense.

Never did I say that 'steel does not melt'.

I never pretended to be an expert on anything. I have only questions.
I appreciate your effort at answering them, even if it was in a belligerent manner.

Back to building 7 or 'that crap building'
"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

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Theres some very iffy stuff surrounding that day. But discussions like this are useless since most people will never know the truth for sure or whatever.

Also Flint, stop throwing links for the sheer fun of it. I read what you said and it seems you know jack shit off construction

<@Nolio> Ilu was the man back in the day,he even made monkeywrench and arganon look good for half a round =p
<@iluvatar> it is my grandest achievement
<@Nolio> *half a round  =p
<@iluvatar> still
* Final_Doom is now known as Thanks_Iluvatar

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My basic point is:
Since the attack we have engaged in two unprovoked unConstitutional wars abroad. At home, we now how the Dept. of Deutshland Security, the military commisions act, the patriot act ect.. Our bill of Rights is in shambles.
Such matters deserve serious investigation on an individual scale.

FREEDOM is the point. Without respecting the laws that respect our individual freedoms, we have NOTHING to expect but the same tyranny we have seen unfold against the native people of every empire throughout world history.

We Americans do NOT live in a democracy. That is rule by the majority.
We Americans DO live in a Republic, which is the rule of LAW.

If we don't follow the law (The Constitution), that is the end of the game. Say hello to a centralized tyrannical government.

I wouldn't call it a revolution. It would be simply returning to the law this nation was founded upon.
Whatever you call it, we are very short on time.

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In reference to pull it


Pulling it means pulling the people out.


When a soldier shouts fall back it's not an nfl position, nor when a cop says police he is not referencing other police officers.

When a person says damn you he does not mean you need a dam placed in front of you, nor when a person says f( ) you does he mean he wants to get carnal with you.


This is a very specific language, used by fire fighters, meaning it's time to pull their people out and let the building burn on it's own, using hoses only from safe locations (see the building collapses I showed)



Therefore all the Iranian's and Chinese who keep focusing on the language are fixated on an American verbage for safelly pulling our people out.



As for the Flint Jump era I am Flint, and that was my jump.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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