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Topic: CHALLENGE: Truth

1) Do you have a mental illness.
  2) Do you accept treatment.
  3) Why should we play your game?

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  Flint is now a public servant, he is in politics as an elected official of some unknown description.
I wonder if he was honest about his health when he was asking for votes?
I wonder if the people that voted for him knew about his health?
I wonder if people would have voted for him had they known the truth?
  But don't listen to me, it's not like the public have a right to know, is it?
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"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

what is truth?

is there absolute truth in the world? or is there just relative truth?? tongue


is truth just a way of justifying the means or is it arguably the existence of a greater being with a greater purpose?

is there only 1 truth? or is there an infinite number of truths?

is it possible for truth to be false?

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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

fokker, please keep it to 1 thread

my thread already adresses his illness. So keep other illnesses there as well

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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

1. Yes
2. Sorta
3. You don't have a choice.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

1. Yes
2. No
3. You don't have a choice.

Anyone who uses phrases like "relative truth" and words like "truths" is, in fact, retarded.

When I see educated people rape the English language and speak of "multiple realities," it makes me sad. We have better words for what they're trying to say. They're just too stupid to not misuse words that have other, real, meanings. It's like they're living in a cloud of metaphorical BONG SMOKE.

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or, Mr. Fancsali, you can SHOW US the words you're speaking of. I myself cannot think of any other word(s) that may represent "relative truth" in a better way than "relative truth"


...ass.

Insane Lemming of Drama Queens and Other Hyperbolical People

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there is only 1 truth cuz detective conan (from the anime) said so

Brother Simon, Keeper of Ages, Defender of Faith.
~ &#9773; Fokker

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Usually, when the word "truth" is being raped, the focus is on human perception and the limits of human perception to KNOW.

Like the word "reality." It's a real word. You can look it up. But I doubt many places will define it such that a psychotic person is actually physically not entirely bound by the same laws situated in the same world as the rest of us. (seeing as they are, in fact, not) Because my perception of something is different from that of a person of another culture in which connotations of certain words are VERY different for the two of us does not mean that we experience DIFFERENT REALITIES when we have the same experience but do not look at it the same way. It means we had different perceptions. It means we interpretted things differently. Redefining real words we have real meanings for is just ignorant, pointless, misleading, and [thus] stupid. I suppose it's not pointless if one's goal is to jazz something up to try to sound more intelligent, like one has a new perspective, and so garner some attention. But I would contend that such is not an admirable goal to work toward here.

The bottom line is that the psychotic person is not actually omnipotent. I don't care what the limits of human perception are; we all know that, just because a guy is psychotic and thinks he's superman and he's going to run through that brick wall, when he hits it and kills himself, he is objectively dead and did not, in fact, run through that brick wall. Truth has a meaning too. Debate how knowable much or any TRUTH is freely. But to redefine this word is as bad as "reality." The psychotic guy is just as dead here and now in the real world, no matter what pseudo-intellectual BS might want to claim about us not KNOWing anything.

... ass. big_smile

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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

tongue


reality is arbitrary, just like truth. Simply put.

Insane Lemming of Drama Queens and Other Hyperbolical People

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How do you know? Why do you think you know?  Who are you anyway?

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

Politics is dead long live Politics.  I just knew it was a bad idea when they let some of the challenge threads surivive.

I'm going to be nicer promise

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

questions are arbitrary too tongue

just like identity


hell, we should just say the universe and everything in it is arbitrary and be done with it

Insane Lemming of Drama Queens and Other Hyperbolical People

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Listos is the guy from my example. He's totally psychotic, but that doesn't change anything. He's still stuck in reality with the rest of us. And that's the truth, regardless of whether he likes it or accepts it or is functional enough to be aware of it. tongue

lol question. agreed. Politics is dead! Long live Politics!

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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

Fancsali, agreed.

although, I feel i should mention the truth isn't always what it seems to be.


something about that saying, You say a lie enough, and eventually the lie becomes truth...

Insane Lemming of Drama Queens and Other Hyperbolical People

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That's a discussion of perception and psychotic tendencies, not the truth. tongue

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your perception of the truth isn't the true truth of the truly true man tongue

Insane Lemming of Drama Queens and Other Hyperbolical People

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You want the Truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!

I deride your truth-handling ability!

No truth-handler, you!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

You want truth? First you must understand lies. My post comes later.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

hmm, what are lies? false truths? different truths? truths that are proven wrong?

Insane Lemming of Drama Queens and Other Hyperbolical People

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>>your perception of the truth isn't the true truth of the truly true man <<

This says nothing of the truth itself. You've got to know your limitations. tongue

Bah on "false truths." You must live in a DIFFERENT REALITY than me.

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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

Original post edited.

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

You seem to be personally involved/concerned with things that are not healthy. You creep me out.

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Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

There is no objective basis for any truth.

Re: CHALLENGE: Truth

> CMXILies wrote:

> There is no objective basis for any truth.>

Is that true?

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lol CMXILies. That's quite the statement.

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