Lizon??? I thought you quit this game like 6 years ago... you're alive?

Haha, so you decided to hang around the forum of a game u stopped playing over 5 years ago?

Haha, when I quit this game I'm never looking back X(

come join my fam X( we suck so there is no pressue

"Not that I disagree with the thought that we should give as we are able and take as we require, which is the basis of your resource economy, that one should make what one is able and use that to trade for what one needs. Scary how easily it is to merge the two isn't it"

Where the #@% did I say anything of the sort about 'giving as we are able'?

I've said nothing of the sort.  Why did you think I did?  Because you are brainwashed into thinking that any possible alternative to the STUPIDITY of the current status quo must be communist or fascist.

"as soon as you mention "white collar crooks" it is just a small stone throw (in fact a matter of symantics) to move to class struggles and dictatorships of the burgouise, which is communist (any sort) of speak... so really you are just re-stating a known theory, one that would work perfectly in a perfect world, or maybe on a small scale."

I don't give a #%$ about what your pre-conceived notions of what certain terms imply.

When I see white-collar crooks, I point them out: Bushes, Clintons, Bilderbergs, Conrad Black,  Rockefellers, etc., and, I'm about to include Bill Gates in this list, too, because we don't need him to make another crappy operating system.  What we need are real solutions to the REAL WORLD problems we are facing.  Bill should get his head out of his ass and start working on THOSE problems now if he doesn't want to go down in history as just another pompous prick that sped humanity around the downward spiral like the rest of the financial/political leaders the world with their bandaid-solution bailout plans, stupid wars, greed, and half-assed policy measures...

But don't get me wrong, WHITE COLLAR CROOKS, although PRIMARILY responsible for what is happening, are not entirely to blame.  It's the apathy of people like you, me, our entire generation, and all generations before us, who are also to blame - blamed for doing too little to late.

Don't you see that there is a problem in our societies?  For example, it is a crime to plant a tree and build a livable 'off-grid' tree house - a simple, natural act that could help alleviate our children's burdens.  Even writing about it is considered an act of agitation against the status quo, labeled as evil?  Why are you people so bloody closed-off to even THINKING about possible innovations that could one day save your life?

I mean here is a guy, who, like me, saw this coming (although more clearly that I did), but whom, nonetheless, took measures (and is still taking them) to simply protect himself and his family from our dark future, and wants to help others also protect themselves.  Don't you think you might have something to learn from someone like him?

Interdisciplinary studies are cutting-edge stuff, written by fully qualified academics, who apply understandings and methodologies from their own fields of specialization AND those beyond their specializations to produce works of that tend to be far more insightful, comprehensive, and accessible to people than those produced by specialists of a particular field.

I'm glad he isn't an economist, else we would have got the same narrow-minded bull@$#@ we usually get.

Lizon: I agree with you, except for one point, I have faith that at some point in human civilization evolution we could move to a point where the evil of man kind is removed from our collective behaviour. It is all things that we learn, and we could grow to not think that way, to not act that way, to be better...

Xeno: You may not like to label your idea as communist or maxist or what ever, but that doesn't stop it being that. You may have been pre-conditioned to think that these terms are bad and so do your best to avoid them ,but wishing doesn't change things... You want a communist society.

Let me make sure I have understood your "resource economy"

You think we should live in harmony with the earth, with robotics creating our basic needs (which I assume you mean become essentially free to provide.) The monetary system we work under currently is then thown out and we move to a barter/trade system, where if you desire somehting you either produce it yourself or find someone who does and facilitate them getting something they desire (either by doing it yourself or trading with others to get it) so you can get your desire.

Tell me if I got something wrong.

I know it is a stretch if you aren't thinking about it, but can you not see how this is giving as you can and recieving what you need?

If you need something you give what you can to the society so you can recieve it... There is no intrinsic values for trade goods or services without money, so it is only what you can barter for it, so it deoends on your ability as a diplomat and speaker. It thus promotes good education and inter-personal skills, which is a good thing...

Fair enough, i just find it better to look to that light at the end of the tunnel... as you say we need to work towards the pinicle of human civilization...

You keep telling yourselves that mushy nonsense.

Kill 'em all.

> xeno syndicated wrote:

> I'm glad he isn't an economist, else we would have got the same narrow-minded bull@$#@ we usually get.

You sure that you like that slippery slope?

"I'm glad I didn't get my heart checked by a doctor after that heart attack, else he would have told me I need some double-bypass bullshit!"

> Chris_Balsz wrote:

> I will keep on trucking until money is just paper.  Then I'll take slaves.

What will you be taking them with? 

Magical robots make me feel so warm and fuzzy inside.

> I'm glad he isn't an economist, else we would have got the same narrow-minded bull@$#@ we usually get.

You sure that you like that slippery slope?

"I'm glad I didn't get my heart checked by a doctor after that heart attack, else he would have told me I need some double-bypass bullshit!"

Interdisciplinary studies is NOT a slippery slope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdisciplinary_studies