If only Newton had websites...oh what a glorious gravity defying world we would live in.

"Zidi your challenged"

stopped reading there

sorry flint couldn't help myself :<

Come one Lyv, make the pun with mentally! You know you want to. Oh yes.

Ok so far you are showing your education, but now to throw a curve ball to start making you view other viewpoints more accurately.

What about the viking farms they have found under the deep ice in Greenland?

"p.s please dont mind my spelling, I dont edit, i just type, and my touch typing skills have become degraded by long conversation on msn to the point where if it sounds reasonably right if u say it as i typed it good enough =p"

considering Einstein made a collossal spelling/grammatical error in the topic's title, he's not allowed to make any remarks

Hmmm, I lost my old hard-drive and cannot find the linkies I had about the farms/villages. I will be forced to concede that as an accidental fault.

However I will not concede on global warming or man made climate change that easily.

Historical temp variations for Greenland:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/10/981012075513.htm

Glaciers in Alaska had been shrinking for 250 years, now growing:
http://www.dailytech.com/Alaskan+Glaciers+Grow+for+First+Time+in+250+years/article13215.htm

This glacier disappeared in 1920... before so called man made global warming:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/1404671/Melting-glacier-%27false-alarm%27.html

Greenlands ice has been receding for quite the while in some areas:
http://books.google.com/books?id=POsAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA274&dq=%222000+square+leagues+of+ice+with+which+the+greenland+seas+between+the+latitudes%22#PPA275,M1

Greenlands ice however has been growing taller:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/30/the-ice-in-greenland-is-growing/

Not totally up to date, but shows the ice sheets have grown thicker:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/cold-science/2002-01-18-wais-thicker.htm

But then this one says it also 3 years later:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116701221801_45/?hub=SciTech

Fire and Ice has a more graphical way to show the increase in ice in Antarctica:
http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet.htm

Anyhow this is a lot for you to take in, let me know when done here.

Ok Zidi my argument is summed up here:

Understanding the environment is ok, but claiming man is destroying it is not only premature but goes against evidence that there has been warming in the past, and an ongoing heating around the world (The Glacier in Alaska was a little towards that effort)

Further that the politicians forced this to the forefront with some rogue scientists, and that when they realized they had a losing proposition with the sun stopping the heating via reducing it's magnetic push (Which stops cosmic radiation, shown by scientists I follow as to form clouds, leading to the formation of many more clouds) they created 'climate change'.

Evidence shows there has been climate change over the entire world in deep history, and that change has occurred at many local areas in just the last few centuries and that there is no plausible way that carbon dioxide was responsible for that either.

Right now to my opinion the extremists of environmentalism are in control and are dead set to spend hundreds of trillions of dollars on an extremist goal as well to utterly destroy the economy of the United States in specific.

While I have no issue funding environmental research, I do not think it is more important than Medical Research, Industrial Research, and geological research. I would however say it is more important than astrological research and even historical research.

Now what parts of my statement do you disagree with?