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The world is gonna change if we want it or not.. the elite know it, they try to fight it.. (useing the media, politics ect.)

Finance world is collapsing, there is gonna be a big change.. and a very hot summer, bankers are still getting bonusses and they're responsible for this, people are gonna pay more taxes ect.. What do you think, people gonna take this, bankers getting bonusses and people(workclass) keep paying more, don't think so.

Just be positive and everything will be fine. Just look to your innerself and work on it.

god is love and thats the strongest..

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A fine example of why there isn't big change. Everyone expects someone else to do it. Obama says he will, then ups the same garbage they've been eating ten times over.

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"Everyone expects someone else to do it."

But that's exactly what will happen.  Everybody expects somebody else will do it, and they're right to expect it because EVERYBODY (including them) is doing it, including you William Francsali, whether you realise it or not.

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So, go plant your tree already, will you?  I'm just trying to help you ensure you have a home when you retire.

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Yeah funny, that guy makes you look like you have negative income.

If he wanted a dozen homes he could buy them in Detroit, buy some of the scariest dogs alive to guard them, and retire when Republicans start governing Detroit and Michigan. I hear you can get houses there for $1000 and that the median price is $2500.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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I'm doing it? Then it is definitely nothing you have described here.

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xeno said, "Regardless of race, religion, the trend is for people from all walks of life in all nations to come to a consensus about how we want our society to be, vocalized by individuals' purchasing-preferences and other economic activities, choices that are made regardless of the individual's profession, class, or politics."

You are changing the world, Franscali, by how you spend your money.  We vote with our purchases.

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Xeno = crazy man

Someone get him locked up for his own good? oh and close this thread, it isn't actually doing anything...

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Well, I could just stop discussing things here and go talk with people who understand what's going on at, oh, I don't know, maybe

http://www.chrismartenson.com/

Or, I could continue to have dialogue here with you guys.  Doesn't matter, really.  Although I would like to have some sort of discussion here on these matters.

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About Chris Martenson

Executive summary: Father of three young children; author; obsessive financial observer; trained as a scientist; experienced in business; has made profound changes in his lifestyle because of what he sees coming.

I think it

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> xeno syndicated wrote:

> About Chris Martenson

First of all, I am not an economist.



Hmm... maybe a little out of his field, at least if you're asserting he is an advocate of your resource-based economy?  Neurotoxicology?  Um... okay...

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Him not being an economist validates his authority on the matter, because he is bringing his knowledge in other areas into his analysis.

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lol @ xeno. He thinks there's a dialogue here. How silly.

Chris Martenson sounds like a nice and educated guy. Too bad he has nothing to say of your "resource based economy."

We already have one. Think of the dollar as a "resource credit." Bam. The future is here mother[ ].

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> xeno syndicated wrote:

> Him not being an economist validates his authority on the matter, because he is bringing his knowledge in other areas into his analysis.


Neurotoxicology?

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Chris Martenson,

What a dick, he robbed his children of a rich and promising future.

Je maintiendrai

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"Neurotoxicology?"

Maybe he kept finding increased levels of heavy metals in peoples' brains and that started him thinking...

And why not Neurotoxicology?  It is called interdisciplinary study...

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"Chris Martenson,

What a dick, he robbed his children of a rich and promising future."

You could say the same about Bush, Clinton, the Federal Reserve twits, Bilderbergs, Banks, etc., except you'd have to say, "What dicks, they robbed MY children of a rich and promising future."

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Well, except they're not the actual fathers. That kinda deepens the insult.

Je maintiendrai

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you can tell you guys don't have kids

"robbed them" by doing wtf he wants tongue

get a job you beatniks

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Well gee I go away for a few days and look what happens. Xeno goes off the deep end and finally snaps saying that all of our problems are because of "White-collar crooks". -.- I don't think anything else needs to be said about that one. When you accept that the idea your proposing is Marxism (which it is, you haven't disputed it) we can continue a proper dialogue to the pro's and cons of a Marxist society vs current.

In an attempt to pull Xeno back into the argument at hand so he doesn't go off topic.

1. Laws are not going to change over night. Also most of the regulations about your tree houses have little to do with laws and more to do with HoA and Deed restrictions. Which are another matter all together. You can't change those unless you own a house in the neighborhood in question and are a member of the board.

2. The financial system is fine, we're not going to be going to the great depression era, been there done that, we'll be fine. Fear breeds fear, and that's the major problem right now. The value of sound companies are being deflated artificially for no reason other than market fears. Overall though the markets will be fine in the long run. In fact chances are good that we'll have another economic boom after this recession. History has shown this to be the case after economic conditions such as these. In fact this is the perfect time to begin buying stock in some companies cause their undervalued and will shoot up sky high once markets recover. I should buy some Microsoft stock cause Windows 7 looks like a hit. ^.^

As for the Nutty Professor I have one thing to say:

There's a fine line between genius and crazy. Seems he found it. ^.^

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> xeno syndicated wrote:

> "Neurotoxicology?"

Maybe he kept finding increased levels of heavy metals in peoples' brains and that started him thinking...

And why not Neurotoxicology?  It is called interdisciplinary study...



1: That "maybe" is highly speculative.
2: Neurotoxicology is an interdisciplinary study, yet economics isn't?  I'm not doubting that he may have some knowledge that helps in understanding the world of the social sciences.  But to say that a scientist in neurotoxicology is more legitimate a source on economic theory than an economist is just blatantly wrong.

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He would be the uni bomber (remember his manifesto?) except he does not understand math, and he actually claims to have children.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Now now flint, maybe he has robot "children" tongue

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If he does he's a hypocrite for not having them build me an OGLU!

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@ Lizon,

I don't think anything else needs to be said about that one. When you accept that the idea your proposing is Marxism (which it is, you haven't disputed it) we can continue a proper dialogue to the pro's and cons of a Marxist society vs current.

Aren't there white collar crooks out there?  Or, I suppose, the finance people all spout wings and halos.  There are good white collar workers, but there also, there are some nasty ones.  It's these nasty ones who have run our world amuck.   I am not proposing marxism.  There disputed.  Happy now?