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>>>"EU is already creaking.  I think it clear it will not advance further towards unity for a generation; it might break up in twenty years.  Eurozone is become as predicted, the 4th Reich; a penny-pinching 4th Reich that enjoys the Freedom From Subsidizing Foriegners.  "We want no Czechs!"--Adolf Hitler"<

Comparing the EU with the 3rd Reich is unethical and nonsensical  The EU is a slowly advancing machine. It'll not collapse, it'll slowly unite nations..<<<

Some German told you to say that about the EU!

>>>"Russia is about to blow up large. I expect Russian naval bases throughout NATO by 2015, because a) they like that sort of thing and b) you like to eat hot food in winter and c) Uncle Sucker will be preoccupied with his own navel."<

This is typicall russian. They announced to renew  their navy indeed, yet they don't have any construction site that's large enough and operational that could build new vessels. Also, they don't have the money to either build or support them..<<<

They have all your money to spend on the project, because if they shove you'll pay.  Any European govt that wanted to stand up to Russia would be a) frustrated by the EU and b) voted out.  There are Model UN clubs with more clout than NATO

>>>"China, I don't know.  From what I hear there is real popular, man-in-the-street pride in the first unified Chinese govt since 1911 and the strongest since 1800.  For sure, nobody else is going to contest the PRC's control of the population and the territory.  Whether the PRC can keep the Chinese together under the PRC is something else.  Mao couldn't rein in a pissed off China any better than the Dowager Empress.   Development and Solidarity are still more important than Freedom and personal prosperity, apparently, so they may continue to surf the ocean for some time."<

China will soon or late suffer a civilian uprising....<<<

probably

>>No, this thread should be used to promote;

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/?t=EnglishUSA<<

nice graphics, but redcoats form batallion in line in two ranks not three and in the presence of heavy cavalry they form a square.  And their regimental guns are deployed offset not before the regiment.  The only guns that are limbered between the regiment and the enemy are light horse guns, because they can get out of the engagement and permit the nitty-gritty of infantry charges.  And no warship ever comes through a fogbank with all sail unfurled, because fog occurs in a calm.

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The formations can be changed bt the player himself. So the redcoats not being in square formation is the player's fault. Placing guns is yet again all up to the player.

As for the fog, well it's not a simulation, though I'm sure that there are some hardcore players out there who will use it as one. By the way, it's also an empire managment game; politics, alliance, trade and monopolies.

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well I would play it except I'd get bluescreen of death because my computer was built in 2003

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Hm, that sucks! Try Europa Universalis II instead, that game is excellent and your computer should be able to handle it.

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> if Bush spending billions caused the problem, then Obama spending
> trillions is doing alot more harm to the economy then Bush ever did.

Trillions wtf?

Didn't bush spend a trillion dollars on two wars?
How is spending 700 billion on your own economy worse then that?



Anyway,
China wont collapse. The Chinese government is far too smart for that. Same goes for the Americans. The Russians? I doubt it too. Japan? Probably not too.

Pakistan might collapse. Other smaller countries too...

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because war against people who blew up NYC will do more for our economy than $700 billion in pork.

Also $350 billion in the failed Troubled Asset Recovery Program, and $1 trillion in wasted bank funding, and $50-60 billion in wasted corporate bailouts, not to mention a $406 billion pork bill from last year that Bush somehow compels Obama to sign, and, a proposed $2.6 trillion budget with a $1.7 deficit SO FAR, IF, we agree with Obama and destroy the tax deductions for charity.

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32 Reply by Theodora (edited by Theodora 06-Mar-2009 00:22:21)

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If you believe that the system in which we live is past its tipping point, and that the Earth will get warmer and warmer, faster and faster, and there's nothing we can do to stop it...then in 100 years all three will have collapsed.

Britain will be a nice place to live though. The gulf stream will become weaker and possibly shut down, cooling Britain down, which when combined with global warming, will keep Britain habitable.

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Oh no my land will become uninhabitable!

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"They have all your money to spend on the project, because if they shove you'll pay.  Any European govt that wanted to stand up to Russia would be a) frustrated by the EU and b) voted out.  There are Model UN clubs with more clout than NATO"

My point is we don't have to stand up against them. They're loudmouths, but that's it...

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Western europe will probably collaspe first, then the US. iots hard to say whether Russia or China will crash next, because Russia crashed recently and doesnt have much to fall from and China is going to be the next powerhouse now that the US is becoming hardcore socialist. i guess it just really depends on the future leaders of both countries.

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Future leaders? Lets see... there is Dictator for life Putin, and the Council for Life in China (Who carefully select replacements)

Under your ideals there then since Putin is one and can die with no continuation of the cycle, Russia will fall first..


Can you please try to think things through? Your making everyone here think your like 10-12 years old and trying hard to compete with adults.

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Can you please try to think things through? Your making everyone here think your like 10-12 years old and trying hard to compete with adults."

thats what everyone appears to me, so i give them kiddie responses so they dont get confused.

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>>"Can you please try to think things through? Your making everyone here think your like 10-12 years old and trying hard to compete with adults."

thats what everyone appears to me, so i give them kiddie responses so they dont get confused.<<

This comming from the two of the more delusional people on the board... sometimes i wonder what colour sky you guys have in your world, cause it sure ain't blue like us 'normal' folk...



The concept that any major nation as we know it will have a civil war, or at least a guns and armies civil war, is stupid. You will have a political civil war, and in the US that has been going on for ages, a complete us v them mentality between democrats and republicans. It seems there is a lot of 'hard-core' people on both sides that are completly blind to the concept of democracy itself and to the truth of some matters. You might not agree with Obama, but you are now a minority, this means there won't be a civil war because what you have now is what the people wanted. I know its hard to accept when you are wrong, but deal with it.

What I love about some of you though is your complete disregard for what yo uhave said before. Not to long ago someone could of said how shit Bush had done compared to Clinton, and the standrad type response from the idiotic right wing-ers from here would be "Clinton didn't do good, he ran the economy into the ground, he was given a great economy from Bush sr & Regan then preceeded to ruin it, so that when Bush came in it was shaky and he did his best, and better than a democrat would of done." So the general theme was the economic trend for a president's term(s) came from the one before. Regan/Bush = good times for Clinton, who in tern = bad times for bush. However now we are in the worst economic crises, which has happened at the end of Bush jr's 2nd term and somehow it is Obama's fault? well done guys, prooving us 'left wing weaners' right all along...


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"The concept that any major nation as we know it will have a civil war, or at least a guns and armies civil war, is stupid. You will have a political civil war, and in the US that has been going on for ages, a complete us v them mentality between democrats and republicans. It seems there is a lot of 'hard-core' people on both sides that are completly blind to the concept of democracy itself and to the truth of some matters. You might not agree with Obama, but you are now a minority, this means there won't be a civil war because what you have now is what the people wanted. I know its hard to accept when you are wrong, but deal with it."

i agree

"What I love about some of you though is your complete disregard for what yo uhave said before. Not to long ago someone could of said how shit Bush had done compared to Clinton, and the standrad type response from the idiotic right wing-ers from here would be "Clinton didn't do good, he ran the economy into the ground, he was given a great economy from Bush sr & Regan then preceeded to ruin it, so that when Bush came in it was shaky and he did his best, and better than a democrat would of done." So the general theme was the economic trend for a president's term(s) came from the one before. Regan/Bush = good times for Clinton, who in tern = bad times for bush. However now we are in the worst economic crises, which has happened at the end of Bush jr's 2nd term and somehow it is Obama's fault? well done guys, prooving us 'left wing weaners' right all along..."

no, what would happen would be, a left wing person would say Democrats are good for the economy, just look at what the economy was like during Clinton's administration. and then moderates and right wingers would say, if Clinton was so good the economy, what exactly did he do that was good for the economy? he didnt do anything, so he wasnt the cause. now if you look at what Obama is doing, he's doing stuff that would harm the economy, and the economy is falling; are we in a recession because of him? no. is what he doing helping the economy? many economists both left anf right would say he's not helping the economy. to say that theres a delay to the next president is a childishly simplistic way to look at the economy. different enviroments and different actions will cause different changes during different time periods.

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Avogardo Blow Job Clinton won due to tax cuts from Reagan, and from a bubble of his own.

Not due to his skills.

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US is definitely going to collapse and probably break up into several super-states
the next on the line is EU which will see national protectionism trade wars capital walls and ultimately demise of the euro

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"You might not agree with Obama, but you are now a minority, this means there won't be a civil war because what you have now is what the people wanted. I know its hard to accept when you are wrong,"

How does losing an election make us wrong? Hitler took power through parliamentary democracy.  Did that make his critics, wrong?

BTW your theory that Obama governs as he promised is wobbly.  As late as October, when Palin said Obama was a socialist, she was called a kook pandering to the far right base.

"but deal with it."

We do, that's why we mention political violence as one form of dealing with it.

"What I love about some of you though is your complete disregard for what yo uhave said before. Not to long ago someone could of said how shit Bush had done compared to Clinton, and the standrad type response from the idiotic right wing-ers from here would be "Clinton didn't do good, he ran the economy into the ground, he was given a great economy from Bush sr & Regan then preceeded to ruin it, so that when Bush came in it was shaky and he did his best, and better than a democrat would of done." So the general theme was the economic trend for a president's term(s) came from the one before. Regan/Bush = good times for Clinton, who in tern = bad times for bush. However now we are in the worst economic crises, which has happened at the end of Bush jr's 2nd term and somehow it is Obama's fault? well done guys, prooving us 'left wing weaners' right all along..."

maybe some here, except, I said when Bush started bailouts instead of throwing people into Chapter 11, that it was a crock, and a failure of planning, that it was a blank check open-ended commitment to pay whatever these unaudited crooks seek from Uncle Sucker, that recovery would be halted because government was willing to assume all risks and strip all rewards so private money would sit it out and wait for better times.  So when Obama does it I am repeating myself when I condemn him for it.  In addition they have that stupid Obama/McCain cap and trade proposal for harmless gases, and higher taxes, and have decided certain sectors of the national economy are naughty by nature and need a good spanking.  So Obama is doing more than just repeating Bush's mistakes, as I've said.

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> K. William Fancsali wrote:

> Oh no my land will become uninhabitable!

hahaha buy my book it tells you how much you have to pay me to know that I will save the world for you and you will not die!



You need to educate yourself. The theory to which I referred postulates that it's too late to do anything. Burn as much as you want...or as little. It doesn't matter at this point.

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> How does losing an election make us wrong? Hitler took power through
> parliamentary democracy.  Did that make his critics, wrong?

Couldn't be bothered to read through this worthless thread - but i just wanted to add here that Saddam rose to power through democracy too.

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Yes, I need to educate myself more on the crack theories of crackheads. What an ignorant life I lead not reading Nostradamus and fearing the falling sky.

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