Re: IC politics forum equally split?

They're holding their breath. It's going to be embarassing to see the look on their faces when they learn the hard way that spending more money on credit to pay off debt you had for spending so much on credit doesn't resolve the issue. They should just jump. Jump now.

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those conserventive basterds just talk more

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I miss 1LT

Question.

If you are conservative on economic issues but liberal on how people live their lives, does that make you a liberal or a conservative?

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> Justinian I wrote:

> I miss 1LT

Question.

If you are conservative on economic issues but liberal on how people live their lives, does that make you a liberal or a conservative?


in europe, you'd be a liberal; in the US you would be a libertarian, which some people would consider a moderate, some a liberal, some a conservative, and some an extremist or radical. unless by liberal on how people live their lives, you mean you are pro-nanny state where the government forces people to wear helmets while riding motorcycles, and wearing seatbelts while riding cars, ect. then i wouldnt know what you would be, i would call you a bastard in that case, but thats just me.

I miss 1LT to.

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you can't compare liberals over in the US with the ones here

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

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@Justinian I

Lol, I'll have as many kids as I can afford tongue

My formal education is molecular biology (and a minor in biochem), but I never ended up landing a job in the field. Came close, a few times, but the commercial aviation industry always offered more money, even in a post-9/11 world. wink Now I am currently a reserve First Officer (or "co-pilot") with a sizeable airline that services passengers all across the southeast US and beyond. It is not much (for pay), but considerably more than my previous job, aircraft dispatcher. Now my office has a view.

@esa

Unfortunately, I do remember 1LT. His views on evolution were something I hotly contested a long time ago. His arguments eventually degenerated into lunacy, alluding that some of the transitional hominid specimens discovered could have been altered by natural causes like osteoperosis during the course of its lifetime, and that for some reason paleoanthropologists wouldn't know how to tell whether a specimen had a degenerative bone disease or not and thus determine it was something /other/ than human. Yeah, he wasn't too bright, actually.

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I just remember something was off about him. Can't remember anything more. tongue

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> Einstein wrote:

> Agreed :

College kids cannot see truth, cannot go through our evidence, cannot doubt anyone  the media says trust, and use double standards endlessly

Don't generalize, I am also a conservative and going to college. I'm going to college in an almost purely liberal area. (I live 30 minutes from Seattle in King County, the rest of Washington is conservative except where I live in smile ). I would agree that I do have a hard time debating with many of my college acquaintances, their snide hubris is infuriating sometimes. I've even taken to simply just saying "it's hard to be objective when your reason is defective". I'd agree that the vast majority of liberals cannot see the truth about the economy, many of them lack the basic understanding of the free market.

The relationship between the mainstream media and liberals is quite interesting I've found, I've argued with many liberals and a couple of times I've found they support their views by simply stating they thought they saw it on CNN as if the media somehow had this innate authority on political issues. Then if you ever tried to support something with something with a statement from Rush Limbaugh or Michael Medved you are simply insulted. (Because we all know insults are incredibly constructive thought processes).

Anyways, I'm grateful to add my name to the list of Republicans in this forum : ).

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> [RPA] Arocalex wrote:

> you can't compare liberals over in the US with the ones here


im not, im saying what he believes would be labeled as liberal in europe, but not in the US.

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I always noticed a strange lack of very active liberals with the conservatives being quite spammy...
Im a moderate green here. Call me a smelly hippie if you want to.


PS: European liberal = american libertarian
but lets not get into this...

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I'll take Hannity over Rush any day. Rush seems to be only interested in promoting himself and his extremist agenda (the same agenda that destroyed the republican party). Hannity IMO is the real voice of the republican party.

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Hannity likes to fawn over whatever Republican hack comes on his show.  Limbaugh's shows is and always has been Limbaugh's show, he put that in his books, its about what he likes to talk about.  if that means 40 mins about the most expensive hot dogs in the world, that's what he's talking about.

The GOP is destroyed because too many people who think like Lizon ran as thinking like me.  then when they had teh power, they said "Oh you thought we meant that?"  Everybody knows or is learning Dems are hard left wackazoids from the Prison dimension and Obama is general Zod.  But what's a republican? How long is a piece of string?

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The republicans don't even know who they are anymore. It's like they lost themselves over the past decade or so. They used to be the party that championed small government and sound fiscal policy. On the national level they seem to have lost that spark. I can still see it on the local level. I support many of our home grown republicans who hold county and state positions. Their good people really, on the national level that's a different story.

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Welcome Cipher, and be here often if you can tongue

Yeah well I am generalizing, should have added the statement 'liberal' to 'college kids'.

They still believe in global warming despite 20 years of innaccuracy and mounting evidence against it.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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"The republicans don't even know who they are anymore. It's like they lost themselves over the past decade or so. They used to be the party that championed small government and sound fiscal policy. On the national level they seem to have lost that spark. I can still see it on the local level. I support many of our home grown republicans who hold county and state positions. Their good people really, on the national level that's a different story."

Lemme point you towards this:
Which of the last 4 presidents had a budget surplus in his time? 100% democrat wink

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Clinton doesn't count considering he was simply a benefactor of having the Regan economic policies a decade before finally reach fruition.

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Damn Lizon, if you would only drop global warming is man made and a few other things you would be a Conservative.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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i like to change my statement

Theres WAY more conservatives, mainly becouse they have flint and he counts as infinity +1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!!one!!

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44 (edited by Lizon 04-Mar-2009 16:43:09)

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I'm a moderate flint, and a realist. I vote for whoever I believe will do the best job for the position regardless of their political and social agendas. I also give credit where credit is due, this means giving credit to Reagan policies at the time for what they accomplished later on as well as recognizing the issues with climate change. I don't listen to the "talking heads" as their called and blindly follow simply because the hardcore's say so. It's the extremist in both parties that need to be removed from their respective coalitions.

Note: Conservatives =/= Republican, the only reason you think that is because of the propaganda crap you've been fed for the past 2 decades. -.-

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Sean Hannity is one of the most annoying "commentators" on television. I absolutely can not stand him right down to the sight of his face. This contempt draws back to the earliest days of the now defunct /Hannity & Colmes/ (which then I was still a moderate-conservative). He does not strike me as a man who has opinions of his own, although this should not be confused with an inability to think for one's self. Rather, he seems to relish in merely regurgitating whatever his writers and producers feel his target demographic wants to hear: a talking head. I don't know if this is reality, but everything this man says and does sounds so utterly fake in my mind that I have an easier time listening to Michael Savage than to sit through one of Hannity's banal monologues seemingly transmitted direct from GOP HQ.

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I'll be honest to say I've never listened to Michael Savage before. I mostly listen to my local radio personalities. Hannity was the only national guy I could think of off the top of my head cause i've listened to him before. He made a helluva lot more sense than Rush that's for sure.

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I singled out Savage in particular since he has a much more fanatical rhetoric than is typical of right-wing commentators and is often accused of being an extremist.

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