"god is a he ?"

you know what i mean

"and no the belief in god and climate change are exactly the same -  you have no 1st hand proof of god yet you believe others (preachers and bible) - you have no 1st hand proof off man made climate change- well 99.9999% that are not ' academic experts' in that field - yet you believe others (scientists/government and journals)"

That's only if you conveniently refuse to accept the scientific data. You do, the majority of people don't. It's that simple. And like I said, your trying to argue something that's already been settled. No amount of bickering and arguing will change that. Sorry, but you missed the boat by a few decades.

Lizon I will remove my mufflers emission control thingy just cause of you. Until you admit man is not making the changes.

That's only if you conveniently refuse to accept the scientific data. You do, the majority of people don't. It's that simple.

a majority (or close to it) accept the bible as gospel (pun) - does that make it fact ?   same goes for saying the same thing over and over - does it make it the truth ?

hmmm I'm having anooooooooother bottllllllllle

chuggaluuggggg

"you can stop pumping out co2 tomorrow then a volcano can go up in 6 months time and pump out twice the amount"

humans 27 bil tons
all volcanos togehter 200 mil tons

feel free to name me one volcano that did breake 1 bil ton co2...
cannot belive that idiots still use that stupid argument.

Pulling numbers out of thin ai is never a good thing -.- Plus those are the only sources of CO2, and you also can't really measure the aftereffects of modern development  on our planets ability to reduce CO2 levels (example, burn off a whole forest region and all of that CO2 filtering capacity is now lost). It's a hugely complex system, just thinking about it gives me a headache. (or it could be that I haven't had breakfast yet)

we're not thinking about it, we're working to solve it now

> thisyearsmostopen wrote:
> "The climate is changing, the patterns are shifting, the cycles are breaking, and what does the most adaptive, most successful animal on the planet do? It wastes decades of precious time arguing over the cause and then has the gall to look surprised when the weather "suddenly" makes life difficult.
I hate you all."

NO -  few decades back they where piping on about global cooling and what we gonna do when earth freezes over... <

  Which is absolute proof that the climate is not changing because...?

> and stop watching the day after tomorrow and thinking its a scientific documentary come back in a time machine <

  Why is it that ALL American right-wingers think that everyone else is too stupid to be able to tell the difference between a cool disaster movie and real life? Do they think we are their children or something?

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So was there a point to your, um, counter-argument?

> Chris_Balsz wrote:
> >> Which is absolute proof that the climate is not changing because...?<<
It is proof that "global consensus" can be completely wrong. <

  So the point is irrelevant, and the post pointless.
Do you remember when half the forum would drop on you like Gary Glitter on Peter Pan for such antics? I miss those days.

> > Why is it that ALL American right-wingers think that everyone else is too stupid to be able to tell the difference between a cool disaster movie and real life? Do they think we are their children or something? <

Because major American true-science magazines like Scientific American and Popular Mechanics ran articles by PhDs that the cataclysmic  events of the then-current flick were in fact highly realistic and quite probable.  Glad you also think they're toking too hard, now please come over here and school them? <

  And American stupidity is relevant to a non-American because...?

> PS: Linky!  http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=abrupt-climate-change <

  This article does not say what you think it says; I see nothing that could be used to back up a real life world-freezing-overnight scenario. I see it referring to what I would call cold snaps and heat waves (which are apparently as rare as rocking-horse shit [\sarcasm]), but whatever made you think that that article was being used as proof of anything I do not know.

> PPS I didn't think it was that cool, a killer wave of water a mile high moving in at 200 mph looks like fog moving at 0 mph.  Remember that bit of Hurricane Gustav where Geraldo got washed out to sea (almost)? <

  I guess only one of us remembered to suspend belief before pressing "play".
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  I'm starting to wonder if Americans all have "special" eyes that only allow them to see what they want to see.

" I didn't think it was that cool, a killer wave of water a mile high moving in at 200 mph looks like fog moving at 0 mph.  Remember that bit of Hurricane Gustav where Geraldo got washed out to sea (almost)?"

I was hoping the wave would have pulled him out to sea. Put his show out of it's misery.

>> So the point is irrelevant, and the post pointless.<<

if you mean you got checked and are now bored, yeah.

>>Do you remember when half the forum would drop on you like Gary Glitter on Peter Pan for such antics? I miss those days.<<

i seem to recall a nagging cloud of mosquitoes...is that what it was?

>> > Why is it that ALL American right-wingers think that everyone else is too stupid to be able to tell the difference between a cool disaster movie and real life? Do they think we are their children or something? <

Because major American true-science magazines like Scientific American and Popular Mechanics ran articles by PhDs that the cataclysmic  events of the then-current flick were in fact highly realistic and quite probable.  Glad you also think they're toking too hard, now please come over here and school them? <

  And American stupidity is relevant to a non-American because...?<<<

You asked the question.

>>This article does not say what you think it says; I see nothing that could be used to back up a real life world-freezing-overnight scenario. I see it referring to what I would call cold snaps and heat waves (which are apparently as rare as rocking-horse shit [\sarcasm]), but whatever made you think that that article was being used as proof of anything I do not know.<<

"Are overwhelmingly abrupt climate changes likely to happen anytime soon, or did Fox Studios exaggerate wildly? The answer to both questions appears to be yes. Most climate experts agree that we need not fear a full-fledged ice age in the coming decades. But sudden, dramatic climate changes have struck many times in the past, and they could happen again. In fact, they are probably inevitable."

There were several other articles of this sort at the time and some of them did say, yes, it can freeze overnight.
You asked why Americans think econerds believe "Day After Tomorrow" is gospel.  I'm showing you case examples.

>>I guess only one of us remembered to suspend belief before pressing "play".<<

I prefer movies that make you suspend disbelief unconsciously, like this scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM_-uMjw8Es
in which there are absolutely no bullets

blaming me for not falling for CGI is like blaming women for not realizing how sexy and attractive I really am.  I forgave them a long time ago.

I would mock your raping grammar, but it's too early in the day.