how convenient

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by the time you guys finish it will be outdated..rofl

I'll have it posted by later tonight. I've finished the top 6 fams, will finish the other 9 later on. Anyone want there PvC to be more accurate, better msg me in PM now. (I'm EmoDutchPocket in 1697.)

Lol the dutch family raided my fam free Sex. I don't think any of us has even bothered to try a retake, though it's not like we had any planets to give them I still have one planet! I will survive!

I though hardcore still had the NW rule restriction? guess not.

and did the 10 add up to 1 top 10 fam ?

which top fams? doesn't look like any have dropped tbh

Saggy D PvC:

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1    The Dutch & Emo (1697)    461    1387876    23543

Despite the doubt in previous PvCs, this fam is still a clear contender FTW, granted I'm a bit biased, but 97 is saving up, yet still growing like crazy. They seem to be the fam everyone wants to see fail, but it hasn't happened yet.  For the first two weeks they were playing with only 3 players (1 attacker) and they were still beating others left and right. However, their very respectable neighbor (1687) has started to catch up with them. Will they be able to pull away now that their 2nd attacker has returned?

2    ^_^ (1687)    443    1268150    20994

This fam is another contender for the win, they're currently NAPped with 97, so this will give them opportunities to grow in the future. They beat the crap out of 86, 03, and some others, and rumors are flying about that they're in a scuffle with 1692. This fam has been infra-whoring and has kept up nicely with 97. I expect big things from this family, perhaps they will unleash fireworks on a new target soon and move into 1st.

3    Why So Serious? (1683)    285    989431    20925

Cloud's fam just beat the ever loving crap out of 1685. Perhaps jockeying for position with the fams in S1. This fam is quickly becoming dangerous to other top 10 fams, and I'm sure has plans to win the round. (Someone told me they've been saving a lot). Absolutely still contenders FTW, they'll be tangled in some heated battles down the stretch, and might just pull out the win, or they might be beaten to a pulp and finish in last place. It's frequently the case when a family is as aggressive as they are. Especially in SD. Contending 1st or 30th only.

4    Carew is untouchable (1692)    242    710952    11715

TYMO's fam from hell, their leader was being difficult so it's hard to speculate how honest he was being, seems a bit paranoid, but I guess it's to be expected when receiving a PvC request from another top fam. This is the last of the top families that I consider a contender FTW, they've flown up the ranks and might just bludgeon every other fam ahead of them to death before the round ends. Oh, and apparently Catalonia isn't a part of Spain

5    Civilized Generation (1680)    317    628887    13437

This fam is very odd, they offered a huge NAP agreement to 97 then reneged on it the next day. They seem to have promise, but I doubt they're going to place any higher than 2nd (and that's assuming every fam above them beats the crap out of each other before EoR.) But they did just beat on 1690, which warrants them a bit of respect, cause UD is UBER gay Congrats on a top 5 spot, but the top 4 will be very hard to break into without someone else getting trounced.

6    Four of a Kind (1708)    251    613305    15336

This fam currently has the largest player in the galaxy, and they've got some decent talent here, again, I don't think they'll win unless everyone above them bites the dust, but they certainly have a good chance at finishing top 10 if they stay on top of their game and keep their cores clean. 92 might be a problem for them in the future as they are not located all too far apart. If I were them I'd also be concerned over Cloud's family. Yet I think their economy might scare off other top families nearby as it seems quite impressive.

7    ...Excellent... (1689)    274    574298    12816

I know little about this family. They live in sector 4 and Noobie is in the family, so they might have some hope. According to previous PvC they were one of the worst fams at BoR, so congrats on a successful climb to the top 10. Let's see where they go from here... As far as recent or current wars, I know nothing about them...

8    TBC (1705)    190    538535    12806

This fam is tougher than you might think, they've slowly risen up the ranks, and although even their leader admits that they're full of unknowns, they've definitely got some fight in them. They won't win unless they get their act together, and with 92,87,97, and 83, all nearby, their hopes for winning don't look all too stellar. But again, this family is contending a top 5 spot if they continue to infra whore under the radar and diplo intelligently. But, if they're going for the planet size win, they'll have to quit stalling.

9    DEAD FAMILY (1694)    198    509290    12702

94 is similar to 89, they've risen since BoR, and now find themselves in top 10, but it's debatable whether or not they'll stay. I could see them continuing to rise, or plummeting back to where they came from. Communists is there largest player, and he looks to have solid econ, but it's not match to any of the top 4 fams, and in war they'd quickly be raided. Best have a lot of savings/good defense before you guys take on a top family.

10    Horsemen of the Apocalypse (1693)    173    485858    10778

This family caught my eye at BoR as a family to watch. they have stayed right around rank 10 which I didn't expect, but...(!) they're not dead either, which means they must be doing something right. Every PvC so far has predicted they will die an embarrassing and painful death, but it has yet to happen. Pretenders for 1-5. Contenders for 5-10 if they don't do anything stupid.

11    Walla Walla Bing Bang (1684)    146    446225    7101

War vs Cartel slowed them down a bit, but they're slowly on the rise again. Pretenders FTW, but they will easily get back into top 10. Contenders for having most random name.

12    666 I want my carrots! (1686)    141    389019    13790

This fam is suicidal after being trounced by 87, cause they for some reason thought it a good idea to nuke the ever loving crap out of the Dutch family in a Pearl Harbor style attack last week. Pretenders FTW, and probably for surviving the round if they pull similar antics on any other top family. But among families that don't care about winning, they are probably the only ones with a chance at a top 10 finish.

13    Ur all Gay (1704)    85    343436    8809

Someone beat the piss out of these guys, I forget who now, either 83 or 87. I think it was 83 (Cloud's fam,) but the point is, they're not going to win, and they'll likely not be in the top 15 soon even tho they were allowed to live by their attacker. There is still time to get back into the top 10, and I think Cartel's fam could recover if they really want it, but my PvC has the fam crashing and burning, especially with such a damaged econ.

14    We all love OOC (1701)    145    343271    14278

I played with SmallE in ICPG, he's a good banker, but I've never seen him attack, and I must say I'm a bit skeptical. Likely pretenders for top 10, but who knows, they might get lucky, especially with a lot of bloodthirsty fams fighting above them. If I remember right, they have already lost a battle this round.

15    You lookin at me? (1682)

Rounding out the top half of Saggy D, (which is all i had energy for) this family is a pretender, but congrats for being alive half way through. They might just hold onto a top 15 finish when all is said and done. They were 19th or 20th last time I knew, so they are still up & coming.

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If I gave your fam a crap PvC. it's your own fault for not telling me who you are currently fighting/recently fought X(... so too damn bad about you

i realy wonder though how 08 can constantly jump like that... there incomes are not nearly half of ours and we can't do infra like that without not spending the appropriate amount in defence.. so either this fam is using a bug, (they can't have savings left for they used it all few day's ago by making 65k cf of witch we destroyed 35k)
so my oppinion is that its a good fam but they are gona die for not having enoth portals def is to expensive on the banker now and his income is to high to be protected with those cinds of ress income

to be true we expected someone to notice. and how we did it snail? well basically had a guy at 87% (ish) con bonus. gave him all the planets and then took off him. and there is no chance you blew up 35k cf's . yes you took about 15-20 planets and that was annoying, but more a lack of activity on our part as everyone in our family is leading a pw family or is a key player in another galaxy. but now that is over our defence (despite what you may think) will be going up up and well up .

and nice PvC i liked it.

Nice PvC, I can't be arsed doing mine, I wouldn't have gone into as much detail as you did so well done.