see?

I see Deci is as rowdy as ever

hello nemeara
how are things going it has been a while i believe XD

no he won't answer my msn's messages unforunately
but I pray he is diong well
how are things going in your life
i just got back from a retreat for a Campus fellowsihp
it was actually one of the best retreats we went on....

I think my idea has value.

Everything is a part of God.
If everything is a part of God, then evil is a part of God.
If evil is a part of God, then God is partly evil. (Duh.)
If God is partly evil then he cannot be fully good.
If that is so, then why do we have the devil?
If God created everything, then God also created evil.
So evil didn't come from man or the devil, it came from God. (who also created Free Will more or less).

a sidenote from a group on facebook I am in:

If God created Adam, Eve and the Devil, why would he put the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden and openly tell them don't eat from that tree? Hell, why put it in there in the first place? Was he tempting them on purpose? Was he doing that because he was some diabolical deity bent on the fall and destruction of mankind for his sick demented purposes that allowed him to wring his hands in glee and the killing and mayhem of the world powers and soldiers because he is a warmongering demonic tormented soul? Hell if I know, but one thing is for sure: he put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden where he knew (since he already knows everything and knows the outcome of everything) Adam and Eve would go there and eat of that tree and therefore cause the downfall of mankind. God has everything planned out (God the Father) and because of this, did he plan out the fall of man and in doing so doom millions to eternal damnation because he failed to prevent the free action of one man and one woman? Or maybe even prevent the free action of his own self? Is it possible that because of God, we are in the situation today???

on another sidenote: The Yell is an idiot.

Why do you have an aversion to having discussions here? Is this thread not the right place?
You need to realise that some of us can't use messenger.

>>Everything is a part of God.
If everything is a part of God, then evil is a part of God.
If evil is a part of God, then God is partly evil. (Duh.)
If God is partly evil then he cannot be fully good.
If that is so, then why do we have the devil?
If God created everything, then God also created evil.
So evil didn't come from man or the devil, it came from God. (who also created Free Will more or less)<<

but what if not everything were part of God?  If things can be of God but separate of God, then you have beings who might go contrary to God.  If "God is so good that He is the essence of goodness, without Whom nothing can be good" then evil is defying God, and is evil to the degree that it runs contrary to God.

> it because it does no good for 1000 people to comment
nothing gets solved and things get perpetuated. I prefer not to have big discussions over boards because
no one leaves satisfied. Therefore I perfer a more personal approach <

Have you ever considered ignoring anyone who you are not talking to? People like Deci only bother those they know will react.
As for satisfaction; Why is this important? Do you need win?

"If things can be of God but separate of God [...]"

If...?

For all:
I found this article from a friend a few days weeks ago.
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=119023545446&h=w9K_T&u=hTleL

> Translucent Night wrote:

> i came to the same conclusion Chris Balsz
the first premise doesnt stand

It stands. If you create something, it is obvious, and you leave a part of you in it. Think about humans Rice. Humans are created in God's image, therefore, because we are made in God's image, we are separate from the rest of creation  (more to come on this have to go)

Ok, back again where was I?

now then, Everything is a part of God - if everything were not to be a part of God, we would all be dead. After all, God breathed the breath of life into humans. His very presence (apparently) brings life to the earth. Now if something was not a part of God, this would be next to impossible (im-pos-SI-bley)