But power is fun! Also, the Prince is just a good read.

Avo,

It depends on what you do with it.

The American elite have power, lol. I don't think the majority of their members will be losing that power any time soon.

Khan,

Lol it's a fun read as well. It's also informative. The really funny part is the ending, when he talks about a redeemer of Italy lol.

> avogadro wrote:

> their members will loose their power at death, for certain. power over the material world can only last so long.

why do people that have everything most people strive for, attractive wife, money, family, ect; often find themselves depressed, even suicidal? if material gain was all that was important, would they not be happy?>

Yes, when you die you die. Your point?

Well often times they are happy. But if you have not satisfied your social needs, which is sometimes the case, you won't be happy.

You can never be happy until you've achieved peace of mind, thus many people contemplate, attempt, follow though with suicide or fall to depression. avogadro from what i gather your saying you desire no power? If that is so your a liar, every man on this planet lusts for power it's a craving that burns deep in your soul. Or is it that you are powerless in your situation in which you stand right now, thus you envy those with the true power?

Knowledge is the greatest power one can have, as the mind ultimately achieves all things possible. I think you took Justinian's post out of context and misconstrued what he was trying to portray. Justinian simply pointed out the obvious that power infact is good, weither it be in the hands of a wise man or a complete idiot the man with the power holds the keys. Next he went onto simply point out a few books, that if you would read probaly contain knowledge, goes back to what i said about knowledge ... and you can't speak lowly of any book as yes it may be complete garbage, but reading it made u learn something, if nothing else how to spot garbage like this in the future thus saving yourself more time on your life.

~ Cloud

WTF is Robert Greene? Where did he rule?   

try this one

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:wD0vcu0_VooJ:www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/service_pubs/mcdp1.pdf+marine+corps+warfighting&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

USMC "Warfighting" manual

"Portrayed as a clash between two opposing wills, war appears a simple enterprise. In practice, the conduct of war becomes extremely difficult because of the countless factors that im-pinge on it. These factors collectively have been called friction,which Clausewitz described as

Peace of mind is overrated because you can't reach it. Only thing that comes close is what I call a moment of bliss educed by your mind. With drugs or with love, whatever. Other then that I don't think it exists.

I misread the topic title. I thought it said 'Books of Power" and that this thread was about Supernatural stuff, Necronomicons and that jazz! Imagine my dissapointment. (Yes, I'm hooked on the show Supernatural.... )

"Peace of mind is overrated because you can't reach it. Only thing that comes close is what I call a moment of bliss educed by your mind. With drugs or with love, whatever. Other then that I don't think it exists."

I'm sorry you never reached peace of mind because i have and there's nothing like it . For me it begun with getting a direct connection with god, no i have no religon i adhere to one god solely and speak with him directly thus i need no church, pastor, or any other figure to connect us.

~ Cloud

We call those delusions cloud.

Electrical Engineering - An Introduction.

Oooh, I'm in!