1 Topic by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 14-Feb-2009 03:17:07)

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Topic: Question for Euros

Rate from 1-3 (1 being the most) concerned and empathic you are when something bad happens in one of the following areas.

Africa, The West in Europe (to the Russian and Turk border), or the West outside of Europe (The US, Canada, Australia, NZ etc).

For example (though I'm not a Euro), I care most about

1. The West outside of Europe
2. The West in Europe (though #1 and #2 are close)
3. Africa

Edit: You may exclude a country if you choose and rate it lower. For example, you can say something like:

1. The West in Europe, except Poland
2. The West outside of Europe
3. Poland
4. Africa

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Re: Question for Euros

Interesting how you rated Africa last in each category, anyhow would you might giving explanations for your ratings instill of just a list?

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Not European, but had to do it.  big_smile

1: The West outside of Europe, with the exception of my 8th grade PE teacher.
2: The West in Europe, with the exception of Hitler's zombie corpse and Decimus.
3: Africa
4: Hitler's zombie corpse.
5: My 8th grade PE teacher.

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4 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 14-Feb-2009 04:17:07)

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Cloud,

Don't need to take offense to it. It's just I share an identity with Westerners, and I'm trying to see if Euros do as well or if they really are overactive empaths who wants to save the world.

Zarf,

Lol. I meant countries not people.

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no offense taken, im not from euro tongue just wondering what the numbers on the list means? like a reason for the listing

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I just want to see how "save the world" Euros are, or if they are more concerned with those who share a common identity with them.

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way to scare off all the euros Mr. theres a war on my race; bigot.

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Lay of Cloud. I like him now, sort of.

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Re: Question for Euros

> Justinian I wrote:

> Zarf,

Lol. I meant countries not people.



Are you really saying that Hitler's zombie corpse is a person?  Or even Hitler, for that matter?

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> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:

Are you really saying that Hitler's zombie corpse is a person?  Or even Hitler, for that matter?>

Well it was smile

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I care about all people equally!

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12 Reply by The Great Eye (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 14-Feb-2009 07:06:33)

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> sad sKoE )= wrote:

> I care about all people equally!


You would sacrifice a close relative to save Hitler and Himmler from certain death?  (If you valued everyone equally, 2 is greater than 1) smile

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1. The West in Europe.
This is a difficult choice, since I would choose the Netherlands and Belgium over the USA, but I would choose the USA over Germany.
My concern stops well short of the Balkans and doesn't even come near Turkey. White Russia and similar Russian satellite states are not in my good graces neither.

2. The West outside of Europe

3. I don't "care" about the rest of the world in the sense that I am concerned with their well being.

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> You would sacrifice a close relative to save Hitler and Himmler from certain death?  (If you valued everyone equally, 2 is greater than 1)

I said i care about all people equally.

I never said anything about the value of life...

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1. Africa
2. The West (beyond Europe)
3. The West (Europe)

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> sad sKoE )= wrote:

> > You would sacrifice a close relative to save Hitler and Himmler from certain death?  (If you valued everyone equally, 2 is greater than 1)

I said i care about all people equally.

I never said anything about the value of life...




Um... you differentiate caring about a person and valuing them?  Wow.  The fine line you've gotta dance is so thin you couldn't stick an electron in the middle!

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your comparison is also flawed because while Hitler and Himmler are two individuals, saving them would cause more individuals to die. so if he valued all life equally, he would kill up to x number of people inorder to ensure hitler and himmler's death and would do nothing to save them.

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> avogadro wrote:

> your comparison is also flawed because while Hitler and Himmler are two individuals, saving them would cause more individuals to die. so if he valued all life equally, he would kill up to x number of people inorder to ensure hitler and himmler's death and would do nothing to save them.



See, but that's the trick of the comparison.  smile

Here's how it works:
If you force the calculation of "how many lives would be saved/lost as a result of this person living," then you would be forced to start doing recalculations of history.  Example:

Would World War 2 have been inevitable even without Hitler at the helm?
Did the Holocaust divert resources from the war itself, bringing about a quicker end to the war?
What about particular screw-ups in the war's management?  For example, would Germany have fared better against the Soviet Union had the military been ordered and inspired by Hitler to aim for a quick end to the Eastern war?


He doesn't get to make those calculations, because it runs both ways.

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