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I meant marriage just didn't want to say Common Law Marriage because I wasn't entirely sure that's what they're called.

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It's marriage. To my knowledge no areas' common law marriage laws are written to include homosexual relationships. I suppose in areas where homosexual marriage is legalized these laws are also widenened to include homosexual common law marriage? That's my presumption assuming their laws make sense. But I'm not silly enough to presume that is the case. tongue

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Gay Common Law Marriage is only a reality where Gay Marriages are officially recognised.

Perhaps you would consider my suggestion for an addition to your signature?
"We are not equal."

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I'm sticking with the classic definition of equality. Ignorant people don't even know they're redefining the word. I do not like them.

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Im pretty sure this topic has offended alot of people.  Its not right to discriminate people becasue tehy are gay. Instead of offering a pointless argument for those in here who are "agreeeing" with this...i thought i would just post a reminder to the mods,


# You are not allowed to use certain language in the game. This includes and is limited to discrimination based on people's real-life race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, etc., profanity/insults with origins as having a sexual, sexist, or racist nature (with the exceptions of "bitch," "screw," and "suck" when used in a non-racist/non-sexist/non-sexual/non-offensive way), profanity/insults used in sexual, sexist, or racist ways, and pornographic material.

i consider this more of an insult to gay people than anything

1. Saying its genetic
2. Telling them its unnatural
3. im sure theres a variety of things in here that are offensive...

btw that little thing up there was in the game rules.

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This topic was posted as an attack on anyone who does not support gay marriage. The initial post is a satire poking fun at people who do not support gay marriage. It was started by someone who supports gay marriage as an institution who wanted to talk about it. This is an insult to people who are gay?

You posted the rules so you've obviously read them:
*No one here is discriminating or even discussing anyone's real-life sexual orientation. This thread discusses gay marriage, society, and government. It's a political issue which has gotten a lot of attention in recent years. What do you know, this is the "Politics" forum.
*No one here is posting profanity/insults with origins as having a sexual or sexist nature or profanity/insults used in a sexual, sexist, or racist way.

I really don't care if my state or country institutes homosexual marriage. I have no moral [or any other] problem with homosexuality. I would have a moral [and other] problem with anyone seeking to infringe upon the freedom of homosexuals to live life however they please. I've offered the only position I see as having a possibly legitimate reason to oppose gay marriage in a thread that discusses gay marriage. I'm open minded. Got a good reason why my post focusing on the natural difference between heterosexual unions and why I propose that heterosexual unions serve a function in society which homosexual unions do not is wrong? Why don't you post it so I can consider your alternative and come to know why this position is not legitimate?

Rather than respond to this position which I am not even committed to with any explanatoin of why you disagree and I am wrong, you've chosen to quote rules which are not being broken here. Congratulations, you're quoting rules because you are unwilling to discuss a topic on a discussion forum.

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i know your open minded. Anyone with a brain who reads your posts in any of these topics knows your open minded. I was merely stating that things in this topic that have been posted between when it started and now have sometimes been discriminating..and the fine line between rational argument against and insulting the rights of gay people is being crossed casually.

ok and about the whole hetrosexual unions seving a function in society that homeosexual ones do not IS wrong. People dont get married to pro-create.  if that was all it was about, there wouldnt be marrage, just baby makers looking for other baby makers. ALOT of couples who marry dont have children.  Marraige is a declaration of Trust, love and devotion.  It also signifies some toher things aswell. and as for it being usefull to have people leagally maried..how about this reason?  Im sure there are others...

Imigration and sponoring so marriage.  Its wrong to say they cant love whoever they want.  hetro couples can do it.

either way, this topic has gotten to serious, and although your argument is legitimite, the fact remains, there is somethign called equal rights, and if they mean anything to you at all, youll let EVERYONE have the same rights, wether it bennifits or not.

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>>People dont get married to pro-create<<

The position that heterosexual unions serve a fuction in society which homosexual unions do not is not dependant upon heterosexual unions being purely for the sake of procreation.

>>Its wrong to say they cant love whoever they want.  <<

Nobody's saying they can't.

What makes it a "right" to create an insitution that the government recognizes and taxes differently? I thought that the government decided that stuff through its democratically elected representatives. I didn't know we had the "right" to create any institution we wanted and the government had to recognize it and tax it analagous to things our randomly created institution is not analagous to.

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the goverment doesnt have to give tax cuts to maried couples, but as long as they do, a maried couple wihout kids has just as much right to a tax cut as a gay maried couple without kids.  im just saying that if it was about pro-creating then thats misguilded.  Then only maried couples with children would get tax cuts...and also im sure there are lots of gay people who adopt kids, and im also sure theres tons of kids out there without parents or living on the street unwanted...so i dont see where people think a gay mariage wouldnt help the society? 

if the onyl reason for not letting gays marry is so they dont get recognized by the goverment and dont get taxed, the argument against is weak.

i dotn know waht you think would happen IF They were allowed to marry, but its not a bad thing.  I live in a country where they are allowed, and it works just fine here.

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> I didn't know we had the "right" to create any institution we wanted and the government had to recognize it and tax it analagous to things our randomly created institution is not analagous to. <

  If we did then the government would have bowed under the pressure of 70,000 Britons do declared their religion, in the last Census, to be "Jedi".
Has Jedi becom an officially recognised religion? No.
To be honest I'm not sure if Satanism is recognised, and Satanism surely has a better claim than Jedi or CoS.

  Personally I think Civil Union, Gay Marriage, or whatever you want to call it, should be allowed, but Tax Breaks? Let me paint a picture:

Adam And Steve have been together since they met in Mexico, some 30 years ago.
Adam works in Marketing, Steve works in Retail Management.
They, unlike most straight 30 year couples, have a small fortune saved due to their not having Avoidable Rescource Drains, commonly known as children, which over

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Good luck finding decent statistics for Gay couples who stayed together until death did them part. tongue

I'm a Jedi. Stop discriminating against me.

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