Topic: A war on my race

Ok before i get into the whole aspect of things, would you agree the way to terminate a race is to take away their way to reproduce? Well any wise man would say that's true ...

So, i'm african american and i've noticed this for some time even being only 21 years of age.

For one when we were declared free we never got what was promised to us, any smart man would know of what i speak of.

Anywho to the true point, incarceration, HIV, violence, drugs, weapons all of which the government introduced into our communites (or am i wrong, did we make Ak's in our backyard? and crack cocaine aswell, i suppoe we own popi seeds) Is it not genocide?

I'd put it like this hitler, he was straight forward with his intentions, yet with our legal constitution and whatnot cruel and inhumane treatment isn't in the books of america ... or is it?

Biological warfare? has happened since humans existed or am i wrong there?

Hmm honestly i just wanna know your opinions.

~ Cloud

"I Cannot Awake From This Nightmare As Long As You Exist..."

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wait what?

<parrot> there is also the odd  possibility that tryme is an idiot
<KT> possibility?
<genesis> tryme is a bit of an idiot
<Torqez> bit?

3 (edited by Justinian I 01-Feb-2009 02:38:21)

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Eliminate your barbarian culture of hip hop and embrace western culture, and then we will discuss treating your people like mature adults. Not all of you are that way, some African-Americans are very civilized and worked their way to the middle class. One such African-American is my best friend. However, only a small handful match that profile. Until the majority of you grow up, I hope that the majority of you stay in jail.

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hahahaha
burn.

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wait..i didnt know clowd was black...and lets be fair..call it black..african american is racist...not all africans are black

smile

im sure black people were the target of such things man, but back then it was dark times lol, now oboma is president so i dont think things like that will continue..

Aquaman: Because how many crimes ACTUALLY occur under the sea...

6 (edited by Kal-el 01-Feb-2009 03:40:00)

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"Eliminate your barbarian culture of hip hop and embrace western culture, and then we will discuss treating your people like mature adults. Not all of you are that way, some African-Americans are very civilized and worked their way to the middle class. One such African-American is my best friend. However, only a small handful match that profile. Until the majority of you grow up, I hope that the majority of you stay in jail."

Thats very interesting, you call us barbarians?? i think not, our culture doesn't purtain to yours in anyway if thats the way you think of such? Myself im a very accomplished person with more to come, however my arguement was never about the things you speak of, do you believe theres a genocide on my race?

~ Cloud

"I Cannot Awake From This Nightmare As Long As You Exist..."

7 (edited by Justinian I 01-Feb-2009 03:55:23)

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Kal,

Not all non-western cultures are barbaric. Japanese culture (though becoming more westernized) is very civilized. But one thing for sure is that hip hop culture is very barbaric. Not all African-Americans model their culture after hip hop culture, but I have seen that most do. So yes, I am calling the majority of African-Americans barbarians.

What's great is that you can see foreign exchange students from Africa at our University campus. They are typically intelligent, they speak good English, and they dress and act western. It's a big relief from the zoo you see outside middle class America.

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As for there being a race war on African-Americans, it is bs. The drugs and gang wars are entirely your own fault. Impoverished African-Americans are too lazy to get an education so they can earn a good living legitimately, so they turn to selling drugs which has the highest return for the smallest investment. From this drug trade, a logical consequence is weapon trafficking and gang wars to monopolize the drug market. Moreover, from being uneducated and overall poor, risky sexual behavior is the result. That's why the majority of African-Americans are born out of wed lock and raised by a single parent.

Now I will say that in a position of poverty, it is very rational to pursue the drug dealing and gang option. However, it isn't perceived well by white people, and that's why we tend to be suspicious.

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personally i am not commiting geonocide on anyone...lol...so i dont know..im canadian...instead of killing others , we decided to live close by in a gated community tongue 

jk

but yeah, really...conspiracy is a bit far...and oboma is president now, so whatever happened if it did in fact happen, most likely will sieze

conspiracy lol

Aquaman: Because how many crimes ACTUALLY occur under the sea...

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I don't really get the point which you are trying to make, but considering the "introduced in our community part".
You claim that violence, incarcaration, drugs and weapons have been introduced in the black community by the US government ? That originally the tribes of Africa were oblivious to these things, didn't know warfare, slavery or drug abuse? 
I doubt that such a place existed anywhere in Africa, Australia or the rest  of the world for that part.

Furthermore HIV ? Seriously ? I mean it had a long long history of being called the curse of Homosexuals but introduced into your community, as you call it, by the Government ? Are you serious ?


And HITLER ? Do you live in a camp ? Have you been kicked out of your house, or have you been moved to a Ghetto? Are you not allowed to marry a white woman/man (whatever gender you belong to) Have you been picked out of the street and forced at the point of a gun to scrub the streets? Are you allowed to leave the country?



Or is that all just a persiflage of that white pride email in here?

Truth is like imagination. All u want it to be but nothing peticular.

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FYI: If you take out the single mother factor, there is no racial difference between the statistics of everything related to crime & jail in the united stated.



Save your race, kill the whores.

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11 (edited by =( sKoE )= 01-Feb-2009 05:06:10)

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"I doubt that such a place existed anywhere in Africa, Australia or the rest  of the world for that part."

I don't remember the name but there was an island (south?) of New Zealand that had a tribe of peaceful people. I doubt they had drugs, HIV wasn't a problem, etc.

Edit:

Moriori they were called.

http://history-nz.org/moriori.html

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
Morbo: Hello, little man. I will destroy you!!

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@skoe

So they stopped killing each other after they were close to extinction, i would say that is a sign that there was warfare and violence in that society too. Very good for them, that they seem to have been able  to regulate disputes so effectivly. However also when the conflict is over after the first drop of blood got spilled you have to hit each other till that happens. Furthermore even if i would agree with you that it is a valid example, it wouldn't support Clouds claim that the Government introduced those things into the black community.
And that HIV was not a problem in a secluded Island on an ethnicity that died out in 1933 is not to astonishing as HIV first occured in humans in Africa at the start of the 20th century.

The drug thing, i simply assume they some kind of medicine man, if he didn't use certain kind of plants and herbs to alter the state of mind I would be rather amazed. I admit i have no resources on that but i would consider it unlikely as generally all tribes have some sort of spiritualism and ppl like to put things in their mouths. Sometimes it kills you sometimes it makes you fly.



"In 2002, 93.2% of prisoners were male. About 10.4% of all black males in the United States between the ages of 25 and 29 were sentenced and in prison, compared to 2.4% of Hispanic males and 1.3% of white males." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_the_United_States)

SO i would keep the "whores" they make life interessting and don'T seem to be the main reason for the discrepancy.

Truth is like imagination. All u want it to be but nothing peticular.

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"So they stopped killing each other after they were close to extinction, i would say that is a sign that there was warfare and violence in that society too."

No, they were peaceful. Probably why they were killed off anyway...poor bastards.

"it wouldn't support Clouds claim that the Government introduced those things into the black community."

I agree completely. I was just trying to give an example of a peaceful society being ruined by external interference.

"SO i would keep the "whores" they make life interessting and don'T seem to be the main reason for the discrepancy."

Those statistics have shown nothing to contradict my statement.

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
Morbo: Hello, little man. I will destroy you!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpP7b2lUxVE

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And whores was a playful term, i never meant it in a derogatory way, of course.

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
Morbo: Hello, little man. I will destroy you!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpP7b2lUxVE

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There is a similar thing happening with aboriginals in australia, not the genocide part, but the barbarian thing.

weve only been here for a few generations, and before that all the aboriginals here were bush dwellers with no technology.

they just have not adapted. the majority of them are scum here, comitting crimes EVERYwhere, getting paid welfare by the government for doing nothing which they just piss up the wall on smokes and booze anyway.

every 2nd woman abo you see is preggers because of a $5000 baby bonus you get given here when u have a kid. i have NEVER walked into ANY shop in my city and seen an abo working there. ive never seen any good aboriginal tradesmen. they just dont work.

i have 2 aboriginal friends that work and are good friends of mine but apart from them ive never even met a decent one.

all this is honestly the way it is here, i wish it was different, but they are seriously f'd up. they bash random people for no reason, they rob places, rape and bash the elderly people in their homes, seriously f'd.

we (as in our government, funded by us taxpayers) pay for their welfare so they can have babies and live in filth, and they throw it back in our faces.

theres no genocide now, but sooner or later theres going to be some serious shit going down when we decide to stop paying them to do fkin nothing.

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16 (edited by =( sKoE )= 01-Feb-2009 09:27:07)

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'Aboriginals in Australia' thats a dozen threads in itself.

In my strongest opinion:

Any Australian, black or white or ..., that has been severely wronged by our government since our country's federation (1st of January 1901), should be given adequate compensation. If this is money, then so be it.

That being said, if you weren't directly hurt in these atrocities then you shouldn't get a dime because of it. Not a cent. And to give money or benefits to people based on RACE is ridiculous, un-Australian, un-fair, discriminatory, and probably even illegal by our laws.

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"weve only been here for a few generations, and before that all the aboriginals here were bush dwellers with no technology."

Well, without being too harsh, yeah.

Its not their fault though, for various reasons Australia just never interacted with the rest of the world. With no trade there could never be any real progress.

Given proper trade, the Aboriginals would have developed like any other culture (Look at  David Unaipon for example).

Morbo: Morbo can't understand his teleprompter. He forgot how you say that letter that looks like a man with a hat.
Linda: It's a 't'. It goes "tuh".
Morbo: Hello, little man. I will destroy you!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpP7b2lUxVE

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the Japanese had very limited interaction with the outside world and they turned out ok.

18 (edited by Justinian I 01-Feb-2009 10:28:53)

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> avogadro wrote:

> the Japanese had very limited interaction with the outside world and they turned out ok.>

They learned from China, and later the west.

Skoe,

You know what. That compensation thing is asking to open a big can of worms. I think barbaric peoples should be raised western, no matter how ruthless we have to be.

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The government bought you automatic weapons? They bought you drugs? They infected you with HIV? They make you commit crimes?

Thinking like this is a horrible culture which holds people back from improving their lot in this life.

[I wish I could obey forum rules]

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> V.Kemp wrote:

> The government bought you automatic weapons? They bought you drugs? They infected you with HIV? They make you commit crimes?

Thinking like this is a horrible culture which holds people back from improving their lot in this life.>

That's hip hop culture for you.

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lol cloud is showing off at how moronic he is? now i understand why ive never gotten any sense out of the ingame messages ive recieved from him lol

LORD HELP OREGON

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Lol

[I wish I could obey forum rules]

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@ skoe once more.

The article you posted says itself that due to intertribal warfare they were nearly extinct till that one King came along and brought up the rule of drawing first blood.
As you merely brought them up though as an example for the capacaty of human mankind to live peacefully for a period of time i let it rest here :-) Not to get off topic.

Truth is like imagination. All u want it to be but nothing peticular.