We attacked their ally cause their leader told us they will attack us We had no intentions on attacking 92, since they are in an official war, but we gots the right to defend ourselves ^^

So yeah update :

571 vs 592 and 572.

Mizzle says:
anyways you gonna join in in the war?
Mizzle says:
cause it looks like it 
{BURNED WAFFLES of #592}[UIA] DARKSIDER33 aka Undead Apocalypse says:
Yes
{BURNED WAFFLES of #592}[UIA] DARKSIDER33 aka Undead Apocalypse says:
i might be fighting solo
{BURNED WAFFLES of #592}[UIA] DARKSIDER33 aka Undead Apocalypse says:
but you're more than welcome attacking us
{BURNED WAFFLES of #592}[UIA] DARKSIDER33 aka Undead Apocalypse says:
i dont know about other attackers
Mizzle says:
you know its gonna cost you planets right?
{BURNED WAFFLES of #592}[UIA] DARKSIDER33 aka Undead Apocalypse says:
yes i know
Mizzle says:
oki

Thats why we attacked their allys... So yeah we had every right to do so....

so far 0 attacks made, 5 recieved, we struck hard and fast in our secret plan to demolish 71... and no, we have no intention to attack us as a family its just toast or darksider33, i guess he wants to fight for his planets.
most 71 players arent even able to attack us to get our planets so we dont need to fight.

mizzle, you did return one planet yes, though i dont recall any compensation, since there wasnt any due (core agreement not nap). but that is the only attack that the planet was returned immediately, and only one of several hundred agreement breaches the majority of which your fam never tried to fix. so excuse me if that one planet really doesnt mean that much to me in the big picture.

damon and others - nap cancellation time is meant to start the tick after you cancel. it has been like that as long as i can remember. you have a 24 hour nap not a 24 tick nap. if you cancelled right before the end of the tick then it wouldnt be 24 hrs. that is why it has always been that nap cancellation time starts the tick after you cancel.

"Secondly, I never asked my allies to do squat. They contacted me and asked if we would need help in the coming war, I told em we dont really need help. If they choose to go at it then, you cant blame it on 71, no matter how pissed you are at us."

you shoulda told them not to do anything. that is exactly wot noir asked me to do with my allies when we fought his fam last round and that is exactly wot i did and had always intended to do. leaving a window open for them to do sumthing is just as bad.

"Open your eyes, mate. We aint the big bad wolf you're lookin for, and I dont give a crap if you had a bad round anymore, going off in the forums whining like this is retarded, esp when what you are whining about is small stuff like this."

small stuff like wot? you not being able to keep our core agreement for even a single day in a 4 week period? wot makes it small to you? i know, the fact that we're a small fam. BINGO. i think we found the problem. you are just as bad as tymo and the others in your fam that decided(and i saw the things they said) that our agreement no longer meant squat becos 79 had knocked my fam down the ranks. does the fact that we(and others) are small mean that agreements no longer need to be respected? is that wot you're saying, that we don't matter cos we're small? that surely isnt going to go down well.

this isnt about my bad round, i dont blame you for that, i blame 73 and 79. you didn't help by breaching our core, but it wasn't your doing. i would be making these posts whether i was in first place, last place or not even playing in andro. i always do. wake the f*ck up for god's sake, anyone could tell you that. do you know why I do it? it's because some of us are determined to keep honour going no matter wot rank we're in. i've seen you preach about honour in previous rounds, its funny how you don't give a crap wot other people think now that you're in first place and no one can do anything about it.

here's the conclusion i have drawn over the last few years of playing ic. honour is gd. but the majority of people who preach honour are those that will benefit from it. very rarely does the no.1 fam stay honourable and try to get others to do the same. that is because honour has become a tool used by the dishonourable to make gains. which is a pity, becos it reduces honour to nothing more than a triviality that is less and less respected (and lets face it, barely anyone respects it already). and of those left that are honourable, more and more are sick and tired of the dishonour in the game that sucks all the enjoyment out of it.  so i wouldn't be suprised if i was the only one left trying to spread honour within the next 2 or 3 rounds. what a pity.

to all those that think i am whining because I've had a bad round. you're damn right that's why. but its not becos i am bitter about such a bad round, far from it in fact. it is because the bad round has enabled me for the first time to properly see the state of the game, and of the players, and frankly guys, it doesnt look good. and so i am happy that i had a bad round, and i 'whine', perhaps more than normally, to try and make a difference. to try and change the way people think and act in the game.

Honestly screw all the whining. I am in 592 and so what if we are already in a war along with our allies 972 against 598. 571 has the right to farm whom ever they please. they are simply seizing on an oportunity, not something I would have done in their position, but understandable none the less. Our fam started out the round with an expo war, we had tons of delteions, and were ranked 24th. we have worked our way back up somewhat, but whatever. 571 can do whatever they please and even all fams turn against 571 and their allies, I doubt they could be taken down easily. So just stop all the whining. Your family can get killed by the top fam, and I am no stranger to that. last round my fam went from 3rd to 9th because of a war with the top fam, yet afterwards got thanked by them for a whine free war. We had one pop banker drop from about 150 planets to 30 planets  over the courso of the war and the other pop banker (myself) had nevagative income for over a week with 10 days left in the round because of literally constant estorms even though at the start I had about 150 planets and I did not send a single message to our enemies to complain. And if that did not merit any whining, then this little skirmish is nothing at all. So I say, everyone shut up about it and let them come. we are allied with 572 and we will hold up our alliance and plan to honor that to the best of our ability. So what if we are already in a war, just means that after we get knocked down a bit they can fight over the spoils.

How many attacks have you seen been performed on you ?

We cleared Waffle from systems where he might be a threat, but aside from that we've not even touched you, mate

And Waffle outright said he would attack us...

More of a symbolic gesture really. Nothing personal in it ^^

My pleasure ^^

Thanks maxie ^^ There's gonna open up a random spot soon...come get back in here

Those 18 you captured was retakes Gnomes did...seems to be only attacker doing stuff in Ur fam oO Krabbz tried some but dont think he succeeded much^^

@Budzors

"an the fact that you tried to play in a smaller fam means you werent even really trying to play becoz all small fams shud be aimin to be big but you just said you wanted to be in a small fam,"

i dont see where it says he wants to be in a small fam, but we were big at the start if u didnt notice and yes, we wanted to stay big. all i saw was that he was happy he'd had a bad round beos it it opened his eyes to wot ic was coming to.

"you talk a lot of sh#t for someone who is sposed to have been around for awhile it is sad"

Everyone talks s**t here!!!