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>>"there is nothing that indicates that a fetus that would normally be aborted would be a drain on society if not aborted."
- A child left on the steps of a Fire station and raised in foster care for 18 years is indeed a drain on society.<<

Whether or not a person will be a "drain on society" has nothing to do with the argument against abortion. As I said, I'm not an anti-abortion advocate, but you aren't doing anyone a favor by using fallacies and irrelevant arguments against the position you oppose. If their argument is wrong pick it apart and show where you disagree (not very hard with this issue), don't point out useless nonsense.

>>"banning abortion doesnt do that. you're talking about 1-2 months where the mom would have to take time of working towards furthering her career to have the baby."
- 1-2 months? Have you ever known a working woman on maternity leave? If the mother intends on breast feeding (as they should) she is not able to work for at least 1 month leading up to the birth, and several months afterward.<<

Again, says nothing of the argument against your position. A pregnant mother's bad decisions resulting in whatever inconvenience to her are irrelevant to the argument against your position.

Get an education.

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77 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 28-Jan-2009 09:45:50)

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V.Kemp,

The drain on society is a valid point, if the reason a person is in favor of abortion is because of practical reasons.

It's like this

If A, then B
I disapprove of B
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I disapprove of A

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It does nothing to negate the argument against abortion. It's irrelevant. No one is arguing against the claim that abortion is good economic policy.

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79 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 28-Jan-2009 10:01:23)

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Ok point taken.

I thought he was mentioning that as a reason for why he favored abortion.

However, Avo was arguing that abortion was not a sound economic policy. So it was argued lol. I gave up on the argument though because he was arguing in circles.

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> I gave up on the argument though because he was arguing in circles. <

Noticed that eh? He does that alot, that and wordgames. To be honest I think he's just another Decimus, only not so obvious.

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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81 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 28-Jan-2009 10:23:59)

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> &#9773; Fokker wrote:

Noticed that eh? He does that alot, that and wordgames. To be honest I think he's just another Decimus, only not so obvious.>

LOL.

Zomg! He had me fooled!

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I think calling someone "just another Decimus" is the ultimate IC forum shit talk.

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I wouldn't hesitate to take on the argument that abortion is bad economic policy. Any functional society capable of raising productive adults will only lose economic activity and production by never making investments that result in gain. But that's DEFinitely not the primary argument against abortion. I'd doubt whether a single person on this forum or anywhere is anti-abortion on economic grounds. Sure, it makes sense to argue that abortion is not wrong and not harmful to the economy when someone claims that it is wrong and harms the economy. I was just saying that responding to someone who says "it's wrong" with "it saves money" isn't any sort of discourse. It's flinging reasons back and forth because they sound like reasons.

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i was here before Decimus, Decimus is just another Avogadro!!!!

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> Justinian I wrote:

>However, Avo was arguing that abortion was not a sound economic policy. So it was argued lol. I gave up on the argument though because he was arguing in circles.


at first i was arguing against abortion via morality, but then you argued for abortion economically, so i made an argument against abortion economically.

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*wind*
*tumbleweed*
*the mournful tolling of an old church bell*

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Nobody has yet to tell me why we shouldn't punish people who get illegal abortions by sucking their heads off with a giant vacuum.  sad

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I can't think of a reason.

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you stole that from some eyemerican fokker tongue

till the end of time..

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