yes i was in the same situation noir, and when i was i acted honourably. you are in exactly the same position as me but doing the opposite of what i did. that is why i complain about your fam noir. don't compare my fam last round to what you're doing now plz.
as for why i'm so bitter, i'll tell you exactly what happened. i decided to be a bit more relaxed for a round and so got to see how badly smaller fams get treated by you top 10 fams. im damn sure that i never did anything like the stuff thats been going on this round to smaller fams, but i now sure as hell understand why i normally get flooded with msgs of me being dishonourable when i clear a small fam out of a system of mine. it's becos top fams like most of this round's top 10 normally treat them like crap. so as to what happened to me, all the twats of ic became quite apparent to me in just 1 round and i was sickened by them, and that includes you and your 'honourable' fam. i expected WS to do something like suicide on me as soon as i saw he was that close, so i wasnt suprised and didnt care. wot pissed me off majorly was seeing all the supposedly honourable players acting equally pathetically.
now for you damon:
"and I take pride in the fact that we havent been part of it. Sure there was this one core agreement with your family, where we didnt give back planets fast enough, and sure Mizzle made an error and attacked you in a system he didnt see on the core agreement list".
lol, i dont give two sh*ts about a few planets not being given back fast enough, or the fact that mizzle attacked us. what damn well made me lose respect for you and every player in your fam is the way you treated us throughout the round. at the start when the two of us were two of the biggest contenders, you were careful with us, and there wasnt a single violation of the agreement. as soon as we dropped your fam started expoing into our systems and refusing to give planets up. if we had been a top fam, then our complaints would have been answered with the planets being given up. but instead noir ignored my messages and tymo swore at me. and then when your ss players got into the systems, and refused to give the planets up, you and noir just told me there was nothing you could do. what the f*ck am i supposed to do then? i couldnt clear them they were 3 times our nw and we were still at friggin war with 79. but you knew that, just as you knew there was no way i could say no when noir asked me to trade planets out with him when the agreement clearly stated that he should give them up with no compensation.
"The game is not perfect, neither are the players playing it. People make mistakes and people fix mistakes"
that's my entire point. if you make a mistake you should fix it. your fam didnt even try.
we were small. had there been no agreement then ofc it would be perfectly normal for you not to give us anything we asked for. but we had an agreement. that agreement didn't say 'keep to the core lists unless one fam gets suicided on', it told you to stay out of our f*cking core, and yet you never did. so what does that mean? that means you arent worthy of agreements or naps becos you dont value your word. so wot good is it to the rest of us?
sorry to those that think im just whining, but you're wrong. i post this here becos 71 continue to claim that they are the most honourable fam ever to set foot in andromeda, even when declaring on a fam at war and even when having their allies opp 72 before the nap is up and frankly that just sickens me.
I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.