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Re: 1576 & 1595 vs. 1577 & 1563

Lipton - I didn't say it HAD to be farming, I said it *promoted* farming - and it does tongue

2 fewer fams to hit - statistically significant.
2 fewer fams to worry about? VERY significant.

Lets be honest here, for instance.  1581 doubled 6th ranked family in NW about a week ago.  So lets say that is the case again in another week - hypothetically of course.

Will I cancel NAP and try to war the 10th and 11th ranked families, knowing that #4 and #6 could hit me right after while I have no saves because I was foolish enough to think I could avoid them or that they wouldn't seize the opportunity?
If I'm smart I won't - because that's exactly what top fams do.  Wait until you've committed yourself to the wrong decision and take you down.

Now, with that in mind, that means that suddenly, with that PNAP in place - i'm no longer wary of hitting guys who are 11-20 (who I triple or quadruple) - and that's pretty dang close to farming tongue  And I won't have as much fear of hitting one of those 30 something families who occasionally fight back with nukes, pop ops, and hell really hard, because again, there are only 2 alliances that can beat me - one is PNAPed and one is perhaps in a war?

PNAPs between 4 members of top 8 isn't a direct lead to farming.  But I can guarantee it heavily promotes it in the thought patterns of what you do through the course of a round.

Just like tri alliances promoted more farming (when only 2 of them were good per round) than the new system.  Because you only had one group to worry about, you avoided anyone that could slow you down.

I don't care - do what you want, just know the cost of what you do.  And know both sides of the coin - because with your outspokenness, you can't have them both.

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I am not, in any way, promoting farming. You talk in statisctic terms as if every fam has thesame percentage of being attacker by another. There are a lot of interferring factors tho:
* Small fams are too small to hit and cost more morale
* Small fams dont have spread and are therefore harder to hit, because they only have a core

I agree some fams might be more inclined to attack small fams with a PNAP like this, but families who have the respect to leave small fams alone, wont bother attacking them when they are PNAPd to 2 top fams.
Atm, there are about 6-7 good alliances in the top15 to war. It might be different from your point of view, cuz your fam has a lot of NW, but for the other fams around they are good targets and it will give nice wars.

Or maybe a fam is only after 1 big war this round, and will be infra whoring all round just to try and kick their ass? wink

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Ffs can we keep the wars ingame Girls?

all this bitch fighting is making me Horney!

Like i said allready, if u have nothing decent or positive to say then F-off and stay away from the thread i coulnt put it any clearer

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Seriously lipton --> "Atm, there are about 6-7 good alliances in the top15 to war."

did you take a look at the ranks?  Theres 3 fams total that should be interested in fighting eachother. The rest is lagging behind as hell and are already practically farmtargets for the 3 top fams.

If you take it those 3 top fams could Pnap or even Ally, then wheres the top wars?

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Iluvatar had my baby.

Off topic I know, but I had to reveal it

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could we take all the "farm"-crap out of this thread and keep this on the (non-farm) war between 1576 & 1595 vs. 1577 & 1563...

damn you people are good in talking nonsense

...meh...

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> Optical Illusions wrote:

> Iluvatar had my baby.

Off topic I know, but I had to reveal it



>=\ I was not aware!

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I dedicate this song to 63 and 77. Listen to the words and listen well!! cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikKzQwgBJc

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he&#65279; is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

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GOoooooOOOooooo 77 i love you guys..

ow shit i'm also getting pulled into this war yikes great sad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYhrYHmUPn0

this is our fate. im yours

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Lee gave a handjob to noir for good luck

More at 11!

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61 Reply by SuperCow (edited by Gwynedd 21-Jan-2009 23:32:01)

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Can 1595 be even more pathetic? tongue

I mean.. seriously Portgas stop ingaming Valenka he isnt going to stop attacking you [w00f!]
you attacked us, pay the price for that. stop with the ingames, if you wnat peace, pay us 100 planets and we will think about not clearing all your bankers.

also stop making threats, you`re hardly in a position for that.

[Peaches!]

Haters gonna hate!

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what fam are you glue? smile

<@Nolio> Ilu was the man back in the day,he even made monkeywrench and arganon look good for half a round =p
<@iluvatar> it is my grandest achievement
<@Nolio> *half a round  =p
<@iluvatar> still
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Re: 1576 & 1595 vs. 1577 & 1563

news just in, artic pwns both alliances

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1589 ilu.. wink

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65 Reply by supercoon (edited by supercoon 17-Jan-2009 01:23:25)

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iluvatar 1586..

and Glue we only msged you guys.. to explain were going to war and that your continues attacks are with effect only because were preparing for a war.. and we tried to explain you that.. but you still kept on clearing us.. so we could jump and take you guys back but we rather look at the bigger picture atm tongue..


if you want to be proud on yourself and your attackers please be so.. but keep clearing us.. cause 2morrow when we jump.. youll be unable smile

And thanks for making yourself look like an idiot with this msg. Saves me effort...

A star like me deserves more respect..

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i agree with damn near everything glue said, once. wow

this will never happen again

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> Optical Illusions wrote:

> Iluvatar had my baby.

Off topic I know, but I had to reveal it

so that avator of iluvatar is your kid?

i love you all!

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how can what glue said not be censored by now... what good forum mods we have.

Leap ahead

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"Portgas-D-Ace" is one of the finest of IC players i know.... few others fit that respect from me... some of them don't even like me, but i respect them.
a war in IC these days is not about vengengence... it is more about the ability to win, but this game Ad's a little politics to it.... so learn diplomacy, or learn to fight.... most of this family is old school.... we like to fight.... that is the game..... isn't it??????
and i assure you that we have 10x more intel on our advisories than they have on us.
1st rule of war: know your opponent, or advisories.
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i was not expecting that 4 tick before the war.



Week 43, 11    Attack on cash reserves
I just got reports sites around the empire where we have cash reserves, several of them has been attacked by agents from LWK Space, 5 cash was destroyed. They even managed to find, and destroy, cash stashed on the market.

Week 43, 11    Attack on cash reserves
I just got reports sites around the empire where we have cash reserves, several of them has been attacked by agents from LWK Space, 8 cash was destroyed. They even managed to find, and destroy, cash stashed on the market.

Week 43, 11    Attack on cash reserves
I just got reports sites around the empire where we have cash reserves, several of them has been attacked by agents from LWK Space, 5 cash was destroyed. They even managed to find, and destroy, cash stashed on the market.

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*Sigh

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sad we are really sorry for this

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73 Reply by Talic (edited by Elrohir 17-Jan-2009 09:28:03)

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"
Week 44, 11, to Pink Sandals of Pink Sandals (1563)

About ops LWK did, see below message. He thought 'nap cancelled' in the leader message meant that the nap was over.. Sigh. Seriously, this was NOT meant to happen, at all.

I'm so pissed about this, gah dammit


Week 44, 11, to Pabbuc of Giorgio Della Piana (1563)

god damn it, stupid noob.. I'm gonna kill him.

Seriously, that was supposed to happen, I'm already reprimanding him.... Did u have anything worth destroying/did u get cash out? I hope u did hmm

I'm really sorry, we will pay compensation for this after the war. That's the only way I see we can compensate for it.
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Again, I don't know what to say, do or how to compensate for this before the war starts, except than to offer apologies and stress that this was not according to what the fam wanted. He misinterpreted the terms "NAP WITH 1563/1577 CANCELLED" in the leader message hmm Not sure how we would be prepping for 48 hours then, but anyway, I guess his five braincells didn't work properly.

I'm so [Peanuts!]. pissed.

I'm on fire!

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you is not the only one sad

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Erm, I just realize there's a typo in the second message: It's supposed to say "that wasn't supposed to happen"... Of course

I'm on fire!

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