Re: Russia: New arms race

No X(.

Those catapults are designed to:
A) Eradicate the cow overpopulation problem

and

B) Protect humanity from aliens.

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> avogadro wrote:
> fokker, as i stated before i think the new missles will have better tech and will make a defense against those missles nearly impossible, unlike the older ones that are fairly slow. < *Punctuation corrected by me*


New missiles contain better tech:
  Yup.

Better tech in the missiles will make defending against the missiles almost impossible:
  Non-point; Defending against missiles has always been almost impossible.
Have you ever wondered why the kill rate of Patriot Missiles rarely exceeded 50%? Ever wondered why the so called Star Wars program never actually happened? Ever wondered why our best missile defence system consists of little more than filling the air with thousands of bullets and hoping Nietzsche was wrong about God?
I'll tell you why; Because missiles are [] hard to hit.

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It also helps if you put the missile shield somewhere remotely usable, Fokker.

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54 (edited by avogadro 30-Dec-2008 21:59:36)

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> &#9773; Fokker wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:
> fokker, as i stated before i think the new missles will have better tech and will make a defense against those missles nearly impossible, unlike the older ones that are fairly slow. < *Punctuation corrected by me*


New missiles contain better tech:
  Yup.

Better tech in the missiles will make defending against the missiles almost impossible:
  Non-point; Defending against missiles has always been almost impossible.
Have you ever wondered why the kill rate of Patriot Missiles rarely exceeded 50%? Ever wondered why the so called Star Wars program never actually happened? Ever wondered why our best missile defence system consists of little more than filling the air with thousands of bullets and hoping Nietzsche was wrong about God?
I'll tell you why; Because missiles are [] hard to hit.


missiles are hard to hit. but ever wonder why there are new versions of patriot missles? they're getting higher and higher hit rates. the technology is becoming available to make higher and higher rates of success. while hitting old missles is hard, hitting brand spanking new high speed missles is alot harder. if Russia is going to secure their MAD by making new ICBM's i rather have that then have them try to keep the US from progressing in missles defense technology.

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We agree on something, but you're missing the POINT:

Better defence is negated by better offence.
It doesn't matter what kind of missiles the Russians MIGHT have, we are in no more danger than we were ten years ago. The only thing that has changed is an increased efficiently in detonation and explosion.

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we are in greater danger because there are third world countries that finally have the means to produce what we produced 50 years ago.

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Which makes a difference to the point how...?
No, better question:
Which matters to you why?

Russia has over 1000 Nuclear missiles at its command, a possible 9000 warheads (with an average megatonnage of 10) to play with, add to that the 70 new ICBM's they MIGHT have, and you are worried about Iran possibly having A (singular) atomic bomb withing the next decade, worried about the PRK having a 0.5 (at best) megaton warhead they can't get off of the ground?

I get the feeling you are  searching  for a point of contention.

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Very true Fokker.
Unless Iranians give intelligence to the Koreans, who then produce a long-range missile capable of nuking the U.S.

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"Unless Iranians give intelligence to the Koreans, who then produce a long-range missile capable of nuking the U.S. [once]"

Can you see what I did there?
But seriously, even if that did happen, what good would it do either of them? North Korea's Taepodong is about as reliable Flint's mood-stabilisers.

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i lol'd tongue.

Yes, you are definitly right. But then what is the point of building the missile defenses at all, but to either provoke or encourage the enemy?

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Possibly as a gesture of intention, but I think you are right in suggesting provocation:
Chess.

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I would be far more concerned if they decided to increase the funding for the FSB, that's the real chess-piece of all superpowers. 70 nukes added to 10,000 is a drop in the ocean.

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No, its 70 added to ~1,000-2,000 Cowmasta. And they will have better tech too.

The problem here is:
A) More.
B) Better.

(B) is frustrating, because this could just be a stepping stone to upgrading their entire nuclear arsenal.

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"[...]upgrading their entire nuclear arsenal."

Had to happen sometime. I'm honestly surprised that noone made a big deal out of the UK doing the same (In theory, I personally think that switching to the Trident system was a mistake).

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> &#9773; Fokker wrote:

> "Unless Iranians give intelligence to the Koreans, who then produce a long-range missile capable of nuking the U.S. [once]"

Can you see what I did there?
But seriously, even if that did happen, what good would it do either of them? North Korea's Taepodong is about as reliable Flint's mood-stabilisers.



EMP.  I said this before.

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E.M.P.? Puh-leeze. Hardened electronics have been standard issue British Military tech for at least 10 years. I think that the E.M.P. is something for our enemies to worry about.

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I am sorry, but darn it, I would have to reboot, and that would so destroy me yikes

EMP is an over hyped threat.

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Yeah, just like the American military!

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LMAO! The US military is the strongest in the world, and if we adopted a philosophy from say the Mongols we would be rather unstoppable.

We are so strong, it defies logic.

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"[...] it defies logic."

Must... resist... troll...

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Troll away good sir

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Yeah, don't hold back Fokker!

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yesss, it defies logic and reality both!