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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

"Piss poor choice in leadership.

~ Cloud"

Kind of funny coming you from Cloud, seeing as you wanted to ally Kadaj and crew... wink

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

piss poor... you mean kadaj or his replacement big_smile

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Hey cloudy poo, i have one word for you:

SHOCKER!!!!

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379 Reply by ~Pw 32~ Random Hero (edited by Kal-el 07-Jan-2009 00:53:20)

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

Bad decision on my part, i agree - but honestly FA before u made the ally choice, i had come to the thought of 1610 being the best choice due to proven and trusted players ... however my voice was never heard

~ Cloud

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380 Reply by ~Pw 32~ Random Hero (edited by Kal-el 07-Jan-2009 00:51:04)

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

"furthermore.. i came home from school.. and realised things were going to pot.. we arent scared of 1601 its just they are around double our nw etc and with the problems our family had we would have stoood no chance.."

Only your fault for letting the situation get out of your control.


"1610 dropped us due to our leaders problems.. in the past cloud as a leader you have made some questionable decisions... things that may have caused the rest of your family to be put in teh shit.."

What decisions? Every choice i've made for my fam was for the best sure sometimes you have to pick the lesser of 2 evils, so if you could elaborate?


"all im saying is a leaders problems should not be considered as an action from the whole family... anyhoo i neeed bathh x"

He didn't become the pink guy voting for himself ...

~ Cloud

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381 Reply by ~Pw 32~ Random Hero (edited by Kal-el 07-Jan-2009 00:58:20)

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

Also humi, i've NEVER planned an IA. Infact i've always had overconfidence in my fam, probaly my downfall in leadership thinking people can follow a simple strategy and perform competently.

~ Cloud

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

update M Fers

Never rule out the possibility that you are a complete idiot

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

prob bc you guys are in their core now and they want you out?

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we got a pnap tongue ...

Never rule out the possibility that you are a complete idiot

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WTF Teufel?!?!? why did you just up and leave us mate?

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

@ Cloud... Ummm, do you mean 1610 or 1613... (just clarifying because I was referring to your choice of 1613... not 1610... anywho, thats all...:P ), either way doesn't matter, I'm just trying to get a handle on that reasoning... smile

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

> [PW2] PICKLE ARMY wrote:

> Week 17, 4    Sabotage against portal
We have reports about an attack against our portal on planet: X at x:X, y:X. We esitmate that this attack will take place in 20 weeks. You better prepare yourself to defend the planet without the benefits of a portal. We have also found out that it is agents from Grand Duchy of Jeuno who has performed the sabotage.


wow maybe Kadaj wasn't the only dishonorable person in 1613 so far we have been attacked by the terminator and now this goon sabs my portal


Yah well some peeps in the fam were sorta pissed by what happened pickle.. I'll say sorry on their behalf

Shizzle on my nizzle! big_smile

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@r3quim

yeah no doubt...not a word to anyone about the why or anyhting...no aid..no nothing...we dont know why.. sad

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389 Reply by Flash[light]ning (edited by Flash[light]ning 07-Jan-2009 14:20:25)

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hi smartz big_smile

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

fallen what i was saying is that originally i thought 13 was good candidates, but after considering options having pickle, frenzy and a few other known pw players i thought they'd be best choices since we all communicate together quite often. Anywho 18 weren't bad picks either, just thought they were better.

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18 and 01 are so close, they either picked each other or would have to fight the whole round, and since last round 18 were on top for most of it, i think fallen picked the right option.

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392 Reply by ~Pw 32~ Random Hero (edited by Kal-el 07-Jan-2009 14:46:07)

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

18 is inbetween fams, 10 is the closest fam actually.

Pickles fam and Myself were the top fams last round, 18 lucked out don't wanna hear about them "winning the round" because in my eyes they really didn't and they won't again. wink if you noticed during our war it took 18 2 whole days to catch up to my fam, and we weren't even building shit ...

If they did win, believe me i'd give them the credit smile

Well let me rephrase that, they did win, but not by skill or leadership merely other fams choices and their great spot on the map. My sector was a battleground, theirs peacful. You guys lucked out with them as your allies, or you woulda died aswell.

~ Cloud

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

Taking nothing away from 1618, they were a good fam. Just weren't as good as portrayed.

~ Cloud

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

CLOUD WROTE:

"What decisions? Every choice i've made for my fam was for the best sure sometimes you have to pick the lesser of 2 evils, so if you could elaborate?"

How about dropping your allies and declaring war on them because you didnt deem them to be a good enough family to help you win a war? And if i remember right that was to frenzys fam to which they never stopped attacking you for most of the rest of the round and you deleted in the end due to the whole of pw wanting to kill you...

Also i remember coming back to pw and there being signs out to kill cloud.. pretty much the whole gal wanted to kill you for a few rounds.. cant remember exactly why but i know there was probably a decision that you wanted to kill someone for tongue


CLOUD WROTE:

"Also humi, i've NEVER planned an IA. Infact i've always had overconfidence in my fam, probaly my downfall in leadership thinking people can follow a simple strategy and perform competently.

~ Cloud"

Nor have i ever planned nor asked for an IA.. it was kadaj who tried to get an IA.. but if im perfectly honest i dont think he realised what he was doing.. he always listened to my input and allowed me lots of leeway for ideas.. i think he was just, misguided in his actions.. nontheless he got us screwed over tongue


CLOUD WROTE:

"""
Humi wrote:
"furthermore.. i came home from school.. and realised things were going to pot.. we arent scared of 1601 its just they are around double our nw etc and with the problems our family had we would have stoood no chance.."


Only your fault for letting the situation get out of your control."""


I am a semi active banker, with no vip nor have i even downloaded mapgen this round.. i dont have time to check my cores and remove every single invader.. i asked family to remove invaders, i guess we just didnt remove in time etc..   
Furthermore, it was never 'IN MY CONTROL' as i was not leader this round.. kadaj was supposedly the best for the job, and i admit he did well in keeping us growing some.. but some decisions were questionable..



CLOUD WROTE:

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Humi wrote:
"all im saying is a leaders problems should not be considered as an action from the whole family... anyhoo i neeed bathh x"


He didn't become the pink guy voting for himself ..."""


Of course not but i asked to lead from the beginning of the round and was told by humanity etc that kadaj would be joining soon and he would lead the family, so i couldnt lead.. i accepted this and let things be as they were.. i had no reason to doubt his ability, the whole family seemed happy to let kadaj lead.. thus i let him get my vote..

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"How about dropping your allies and declaring war on them because you didnt deem them to be a good enough family to help you win a war? And if i remember right that was to frenzys fam to which they never stopped attacking you for most of the rest of the round and you deleted in the end due to the whole of pw wanting to kill you..."

My allies were getting a free ride off my fams hard work, so i put them to good use smile evil yes, dishonorable no we weren't allies when i attacked smile

Didn't say u planned the IA wink

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I am a semi active banker, with no vip nor have i even downloaded mapgen this round.. i dont have time to check my cores and remove every single invader.. i asked family to remove invaders, i guess we just didnt remove in time etc..   
Furthermore, it was never 'IN MY CONTROL' as i was not leader this round.. kadaj was supposedly the best for the job, and i admit he did well in keeping us growing some.. but some decisions were questionable.."

excuses, again piss poor leadership and only your fault for not checking


"Of course not but i asked to lead from the beginning of the round and was told by humanity etc that kadaj would be joining soon and he would lead the family, so i couldnt lead.. i accepted this and let things be as they were.. i had no reason to doubt his ability, the whole family seemed happy to let kadaj lead.. thus i let him get my vote.."

And you got what you voted for.

~ Cloud

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396 Reply by ~Pw 32~ Random Hero (edited by Kal-el 07-Jan-2009 15:51:22)

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about pw head hunting me when u joined, after u rape almost every in a galaxy they want payback, nothing new

most likely was after pw round 32, had nearly 1.5k captures with only 600 defeats (mostly lost from banker raids that i let them retake) was a hell of a round big_smile

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

"And you got what you voted for."

If everyone followed this mentality, there would be no trust nor would the newcomers ever learn how to lead a familyy..



"about pw head hunting me when u joined, after u rape almost every in a galaxy they want payback, nothing new"

Hehe, that may be true.. your a good attacker but it was just as i was coming back from a year out of the game remember u being hunted..


"excuses, again piss poor leadership and only your fault for not checking"

When i land a fam they should know i wont check cores on purpose, that is an attackers job and a job that any attacker should be able to do.. if im expoing ill have a quick check of where im expoing and if i find any intruders ill post them, but other than that im not going to spend half my time checking cores manually..

Also.. maybe yes piss poor leadership at this part but there were times he would motivate us and get us building what we should and keeping our growth up that showed he wasnt that bad of a leader..

But thats done now.. I have taken over and these 'pisspoor' decisions shall not happen anymore..



Finaly:

"My allies were getting a free ride off my fams hard work, so i put them to good use smile evil yes, dishonorable no we weren't allies when i attacked smile

Didn't say u planned the IA"

Ok i can understand you think they are getting a free ride, but you could have dropped them for another family.. you didnt need to war them.. if you felt it absolutely necessary to war them you could have give them a few days notice or smt..

Also.. what are you implying? that just because i didnt plan the IA doesnt meen i wouldnt have went along with it?
ask 1601's leader 'Templare' i had given him my word that if we declared war on 1601 i would delete because we had a nap at the time and were just finalising it.. if there had been an IA due to kadajs messages i would have had no part of that..

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

Cloud when were you and Pickle's fams the top fams? for the first week? then you suicided each other bc your egos got in the way of ending the ping pong when you should have tongue

The winners won from being a great ally and working together to gain planets to outgrow my (FA's) fam last round... clear cut...

Some fams are leading til they go inactive or get raped mid-round or near-end of the round... doesnt mean they still "won" or were "tops" tongue

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 47 ~

humi your missing the whole point, im only saying 10 did right by dropping u guys. your leader was planning underhanded tactics, didnt say u'd go along with it, just saying what 10 did was right

~ Cloud

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