>>i lived in china for 6 months<<

Relevant?  No.  Who said this has anything to do with China.  The reason I am in China is because this government and its laws is more open to new ideas of technology in solving world poverty than other governments and laws I've come across, namely those in the EU, and North America - where Western countries would filibuster such ideas, China would, at least, consider it.  Moreover, China, as the manufacturing center of the world, has the capabilities to actually get it done and find a way to initially PROFIT from it.  You communist 'developed' countries, however, have the very possibility of 'change' sabotaged by your bureaucracies.   

"he's incapable of rational argument. he asks us a question, because he doesnt like our response, he asks it again."

I'm very capable.  have you supported any of your arguments with facts?  Sources? Have you given any arguments at all?  You have not given any response to my question. 

I'm not going to respond to any more of yours until you tell me why the current system is successful in your point of view and should not undergo any change at all.  If that's too difficult for you, then you can even tell me why it is desirable to you on a personal, anecdotal level.  Beyond that, if you want to prove you have any intelligence at all, you can tackle the question: If the majority of the population on the planet does not support the way the system is today, and desire REAL, FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES, why should they continue to put up lazy fat white people dictating the rules of the GLOBAL economy?

Back up your positions with facts, sourced, or logic - but I don't expect much of the latter from the likes of you three stooges, of course.

"i gave in and answered your question you posted after my question and you never responded to my question."

Prove it.

Within 20 years, automated production in the agricultural sector could decrease prices and free people from menial labor so much as to make food essentially free.

Tell me, what would you do if China switched to the resource-based economy?  No more buying US dollars to trade manufactured goods to Africa for oil?  What would happen if they just made direct 'trades'. X amount of oil for X amount of manufactured goods?  Why do they need to use your silly digital 1's and 0's, anyay?

Xeno asked: "Tell me, what would you do if China switched to the resource-based economy?  No more buying US dollars to trade manufactured goods to Africa for oil?  What would happen if they just made direct 'trades'. X amount of oil for X amount of manufactured goods?  Why do they need to use your silly digital 1's and 0's, anyay?"

Avo answered: "what resources are the chinese population going to be carrying around inorder to buy daily needs? you have to bring a cow with you inorder to get a cup of coffee, and then they'll give you 20 lbs of coffee change that you will have to lug around until you buy something else with it"

Do you see any problem with your response?

Troll

We've answered many of your questions repeatedly. Your problem is every time we blow you out of the water and you don't know what to say you just ignore it and move on. You convince yourself later that, because you must be right, we must never have responded!

Who cares how you want the global economy to run? No one. What's your problem with white people, racist prick? You obviously haven't travelled much.

Many peoples around the globe do not have the fundamental respect for human life and (though this one's disappearing) freedom that the West has. This has encouraged advancement at record levels and the standard of living we enjoy today. It's not our problem that you live in a mud hovel and support a fascist government. It's not our problem that whores have record levels of AIDS and it causes them problems. No shit. That's what AIDS does. Don't get it. It's not the easiest thing to catch. It's not our problem that you support fascist dictators and warlords and they steal aid given to their people to profit from. As often as not action against these fascist leaders turns global sentiment against nations for interfering internationally and as often as not the leadership that replaces it is as bad or worse. It's not our problem.

There is not global authority and thus no simply defined "global system." A lot of work is being done on this front today but the most successful of it is usually agreements between private groups, not government.

>>Within 20 years, automated production in the agricultural sector could decrease prices and free people from menial labor so much as to make food essentially free.<<

THE NEWS IS IN: MAGICAL ROBOTS WILL DO ALL OF OUR WORK IN 20 YEARS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN GETTING AN EDUCATION SO THEY CAN FIND BETTER WORK, BETTER PAY, AND JUST BE BRIGHTER AND LESS ANNOYING PEOPLE THAN XENO HERE; MAGICAL ROBOTS WILL GIVE HIM THE SAME QUALITY OF LIVING THAT MY DOCTOR SON HAS. haha stop taking drugs dumbass. I know you guys love the opium, but it's really not improving your situation any.

xeno syndicated has to be a troll. No one is this stupid.

He was hoping you'd help him out, avogadro. Obviously he's not going to tell you what problem he has with your point. He's far too educated for that.

"Do you see any problem with your response?"

no

Alright - consider anything you say in this thread or anywhere else ignored - I've lost all possible respect for you, Avo.  You are nothing but a petty troll.

Kemp, on the other hand, has some valid points, in spite of his cromagnon-like argumentative style.

>> Many peoples around the globe do not have the fundamental respect for human life and (though this one's disappearing) freedom that the West has. This has encouraged advancement at record levels and the standard of living we enjoy today. It's not our problem that you live in a mud hovel and support a fascist government. It's not our problem that whores have record levels of AIDS and it causes them problems. No shit. That's what AIDS does. Don't get it. It's not the easiest thing to catch. It's not our problem that you support fascist dictators and warlords and they steal aid given to their people to profit from. As often as not action against these fascist leaders turns global sentiment against nations for interfering internationally and as often as not the leadership that replaces it is as bad or worse. It's not our problem. <<

Great!  You have finally acknowledged that the current system is lacking, that there are problems needing solutions.  Nice first step, cromagnon, you are no longer a monkey.

Now, do you, or do you not suppose this problem might be solved with an NGO (outside the jurisdiction of the local government, and functioning independently from local corruption) establishing agri-complexes producing and distributing free food and free clean water?

Is your only issue with this idea that it is 'impossible' within the next 20 years?

Cromagnon - such robots capable of doing the tasks I speak of do exist today:

From issue 2689 of New Scientist magazine, page 21:

"Industrial robots are mostly power-hungry workhorses, but this new mechanical arm and hand uses no more energy than a couple of electric toothbrushes.

The arm is supported by adjustable springs that counteract both its own weight and that of the object it is holding, so its motors need less power to hold and move objects. The smaller motors also make the arm lighter, and so less dangerous if it hits a worker.

The hand has three fingers, each with two segments, and is controlled by cables attached to a motor in the wrist. The motor is delicate enough that it can even handle objects as fragile as eggs and tomatoes.

The team at the Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands that developed the device are now adapting their prototype for use in factories, and hope it could also improve artificial limbs."

These new robots are fulling capable of walking around in fields and picking tomatoes.  And this is TODAY! All that is needed is political will.  technology is READY for us to do the HUMAN thing.

How ironic.  Robots will the ones to teach us how to be better humans.

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From issue 2689 of New Scientist magazine, page 21:

"Industrial robots are mostly power-hungry workhorses, but this new mechanical arm and hand uses no more energy than a couple of electric toothbrushes.

The arm is supported by adjustable springs that counteract both its own weight and that of the object it is holding, so its motors need less power to hold and move objects. The smaller motors also make the arm lighter, and so less dangerous if it hits a worker.

The hand has three fingers, each with two segments, and is controlled by cables attached to a motor in the wrist. The motor is delicate enough that it can even handle objects as fragile as eggs and tomatoes.

The team at the Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands that developed the device are now adapting their prototype for use in factories, and hope it could also improve artificial limbs."

These new robots are fulling capable of walking around in fields and picking tomatoes.  And this is TODAY! All that is needed is political will.  technology is READY for us to do the HUMAN thing."

what happens when theres a tornado/flood/hurricane/tidal wave/ect? these robots dont automatically avoid damage do they? what about the friction thats caused from moving parts? what about thunderstorms? how do these magical robots avoid upkeep?

Laughing while we die of starvation due to your apathy, greed, shortsightedness, and immorality, but laughing at you nonetheless.

> xeno syndicated wrote:

> You STUPID idiots.  Your government has STOLEN you, your children's, your grandchildren's money to build ROBOTS to make SUVs in Detroit,

GM makes more cars that have a 30mpg or higher fuel efficiency then any other company in the world....

New profile pick for you, Kemp:

http://www.mantleoftheprophet.co.uk/image.jpg

Right, maybe next time, if you don't want to have a new one ripped for you, you might consider being civil.

the funniest part is him calling the first world cromagnons when its the 1st world responsable for all prosperity and the 3rd world that cant even feed themselves....