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doc is dead nolio

it was said in previous ic mafia. sometimes people show up just for the story.
if this was outright a save i guess their goes my Godfather theroy.

just was the first thing that came to my mind.

if someone had a special power to use once. why would he save you.

why would a backup doctor choose to save you.

these are the reasons why i seemed confused atm.

nolio if you want to play for the town give me some good reasons not to vote for you.

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I will big_smile

Sex without the e is still SX!

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k i am gonna change my vote from nolio.

I vote evilsheep. voting pattern and i think he is mob

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so do I, evilsheep it is!

Sex without the e is still SX!

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Current scores!

Nolio - 3 (The_Unknown, Eltara, WFS)
evilsheep - 2 (Jets, Nolio)
Eltara - 1 (Lexuzis)

Still to vote: Amok, Arandur, Chees, Decimus, GeneralSkulls, Lynns, Maarten, TMK

Ages to go!

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"I'm going to vote Eltara for the following reasons:
1. He was quick to join a bandwagon today with little proof against the person
2. He is often killed by the mob early on in games but is still alive
3. He voted to lynch Lyvidian on day 1"


1. I follow the Nolio = GF theory, because what are the odds of him being saved with doc dead. Plus, I'm hoping our secret protown role (if the ability to save) doesn't waste it on Nolio tongue After all, see what it leads to.
2. I have been wondering what was up with that. I guess the mob just likes seeing me lynched, rather than killing me at night.
3. I voted Lyvidian because it was first day and thus random. Why not vote someone who had been going at me before the game even started and who was intent to have me lynched from the very start? The fact people followed shows how annoying he was, rather than whether I'm town or mob.


I stand by my vote.

I'll never know if it was worth the pain, but I still loved it more than anything in the world - it was my life.

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The protown role does have the ability to heal. Hence the mob kill going last instead of first. Anyhow, a vote for evilsheep is a vote for a guaranteed mobster wink

Sex without the e is still SX!

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I vote Eltara

Lemming of Fountains and Eltie Worshipper

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show me why sheepeh is a mobster nolio....

you say you were saved by the pro-town role... does that make you a good elf, or maybe the SK?

I'd like to believe you are a good elf, convince me big_smile

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"k i am gonna change my vote from nolio."

Jets, what the hell? Nolio said "I will give you good reasons", and you bugger off? This is exactly why Nolio gets away with bloody everything! He says some random wortds and it works!
Or do I hve to suspect more of this?

Maybe I'm wrong but I can name a lot of people with erratic "voting patterns"; we only had 2 lynches. If that's all there is against sheepy or in fact anyone, it's rather small compared what evidence there is against Nolio... If you want a mobbie dead, you vote nolio to the gallows...

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Oh another thing (thanks for sharing eltara):

[13:09] <Eltara> [12:25:08] <Nolio> I want the mob exposed
[13:09] <Eltara> [12:25:11] <Nolio> sheepy is mob
[13:09] <Eltara> [12:25:12] <Nolio> I'm cop

This is a typical mobmove when they're in a tight spot.... Come on lads, open your eyes. And for once, lynch Nolio.....

God: Behold ye angels, I have created the ass.. Throughout the ages to come men and women shall grab hold of these and shout my name...

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kk I'm gonna go take a nap. Then wake up and eat. Then go and hand out some gifts, all of which means that I probably won't be around when this is over. But if I do happen to die, I'd like to say:


lol told you so! For once, get over yourselves about me and my so called complex schemes. The threat to the town isn't me. Its the image that you create for me. Its amazing how just one minute me arnor and lynns come to the conclusion that zoz might be mob and the next, I'm the mastermind of the mafia lol. But I guess its what makes this game fun big_smile

Anyhow if I go, lynch sheepy next. That's the deal

Sex without the e is still SX!

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There is no 'deal', you can't force people to vote for evilsheep, or yourself for that matter.
Nobody is even thinking about voting for someone else anymore, it's become that bad.
Everyone should stop being influenced by Nolio that much.

Lemming of Fountains and Eltie Worshipper

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Nolio - 3 (The_Unknown, Eltara, WFS)
evilsheep - 2 (Jets, Nolio)
Eltara - 2 (Lexuzis, Arandur)

Still to vote: Amok, Chees, Decimus, GeneralSkulls, Lynns, Maarten, TMK

Lemming of Fountains and Eltie Worshipper

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The way i see it , there is still alot more "evidence" against nolio than any other person
+  he was the one who managed to convince lynns and arnor on irc that zoz was mob, which he clearly is not.
+ he has a history of bullshitting his way out of a tight spot
+ even if he isn't mob, he does town more harm than good

What do I have to work with?

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couldn't have put it better myself, TU

Lemming of Fountains and Eltie Worshipper

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> [TI]  The_Unknown wrote:

> The way i see it , there is still alot more "evidence" against nolio than any other person
+  he was the one who managed to convince lynns and arnor on irc that zoz was mob, which he clearly is not.
+ he has a history of bullshitting his way out of a tight spot
+ even if he isn't mob, he does town more harm than good



ok i happen to think this is kinda odd, ok very wierd.  let me explain


first off, just caused he convinced lynns and arnor zoz was mob, when he wasnt, dont make him anything, just means he was wrong, and his logic flawed (i have to admit, i didnt see that convo, and i thought zoz was mob), so no proof of anything there.

he is a good orator, but does that make him immediatly wrong or bad.. no. ill agree it means you shouldnt take what he says at face value always. 



+ even if he isn't mob, he does town more harm than good..  ok thats got to be the stupidest thing i have read in along time.  thats the opposit of true, if he isnt mob or mob secret role, then he is good for the town plain and simple.












what seems to be going on here, eltara, WFS and TU seem to all be a bit buddy buddy for my taste, the only three voting for nolio.  they have not all voted together in the past votes, but it just seems they are all going a bit overboard here.  if i didnt know better, id say all three are mobs, trying to get people killed at night and lynched during daytime.

as for me, i will watch this situation more before casting my vote. 

oh and merry christmas to all, even the mobbies big_smile

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"+ even if he isn't mob, he does town more harm than good..  ok thats got to be the stupidest thing i have read in along time.  thats the opposit of true, if he isnt mob or mob secret role, then he is good for the town plain and simple."

It's somewhat clear that you never played this game before Generalskulls...
Nolio destroyed ant chance the town had 2 rounds ago. He got the majority of the town to eliminate me based on virtually on nothing. At that time, he was cop, he had investigated me, but was convinced I was the godfather (Am I really the only one with a deja vu-feeling?) and went on to push the town to lynch his suspects. That round was, if I remember correctly, a flawless victory for the mod.
This might explain why TU said that tongue


"what seems to be going on here, eltara, WFS and TU seem to all be a bit buddy buddy for my taste, the only three voting for nolio.  they have not all voted together in the past votes, but it just seems they are all going a bit overboard here.  if i didnt know better, id say all three are mobs, trying to get people killed at night and lynched during daytime."

GS, we know what we have in our hands, wo know it better than anyone. Nolio is dangerous, he's a great orator and he's great at manipulating people. When we look at the events from a neutral point of view, most things speak against Nolio. I'm not saying I didn't take part in the attempt to lynch ZoZ, regretfully I did. I'm just trying to get a clear view on things, and you got to admit that he's at least suspicious.
-He's way more careful than he usually is (not randomly accusing people; making sure he's got a group of people behind him when he makes an accusation)
-His part in the votes on the first day, where he "accidentally" got Lyv killed, while he was "attempting to keep the tie".
-Claimed he's a cop, at the moment he's in a tight spot. This is a typical mobmove, and it's supported by the fact that no one said they were notified after they were investigated (wich is the usual thing to do).

All this, to me, means he's a bloody mobster.....

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i have figured out who the cop is, and if your really smart and re-read this thread you can discover it too.  and i am 95% sure its not Nolio, i think he is saying that cause he is convinced he is gonna die soon, and dont care anymore.  your right he is acting a tad suspicious, but i can say the same for everyone else playing too tongue

the point is he was saved by someone, and now three people want him dead because of it, to me that seems alot more suspicious than what he has said/done recently.   and yes i am a no0b at this mafia thing, but that dont mean i dont know what i am talking about.  i also think its suspicious that every time i point things out someone comes here and says i am new, so i dont know what i am talking about.  trying to get me off the scent, or just trying to make people not believe me?



-Claimed he's a cop, at the moment he's in a tight spot. This is a typical mobmove, and it's supported by the fact that no one said they were notified after they were investigated (wich is the usual thing to do).


how do you know noone was notified after they were investigated.  i am guessing you were not investigated then.  ok player A is cop, player B is townie (example).  now player A investigates player B and finds him/her to be a townie. and goes and tells that person that they were investigated.  what reason would player B have for exposing the cop, if they did that, the cop would most likly die the next night.  so i find that reasoning false.  it seems to me that you are doing things the a typical mobster might do.

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Finding someone is confirmed a good elf by investigation is difficult to deal with GS. You have to remember that the gf will show up as innocent  if investigated, so finding someone is a good elf means they are either a good elf or the godfather. Going to the godfather and saying you are the cop and have investigated him.... is not a good move tongue. Hence the cop needs to be very careful. Its best if he investigates a special role on the town side.... then he knows for sure he has someone to work with.

A biker goes to the Doctor with hearing problems "Can you describe the symptoms to me". "Yes.....Homer is a fat yellow lazy bastard and Marg is a skinny bird with big blue hair!!"

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since it was the scrooge targetting it isn't clear whether nolio is mob or town from the story. But best I can come up with is that the town special role was a backup, who replaced the doctor.
another option is a jack-of-all-trades, but then again, why would he try to heal Nolio that night, unless convinced nolio was worth saving and in danger.

and i agree with arnor on nolio doing more good than bad for the town on numerous occasions.
Now i don't know what to believe, and willk not vote untill the situation is clearer.
For the moment i lean more towards voting for Nolio tho.
There is no reason whatsoever to vote Evilsheep.
(or Eltara for that matter)





and yes, i voted eltara twice, but who said votes need to be logical big_smile

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Santa's vote is in!

Current scores!

Nolio - 4 (The_Unknown, Eltara, WFS, Santa)
evilsheep - 2 (Jets, Nolio)
Eltara - 2 (Lexuzis, Arandur)

Still to vote: Amok, Chees, Decimus, GeneralSkulls, Lynns, Maarten, TMK

Ages to go!

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I vote Nolio

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"what reason would player B have for exposing the cop, if they did that, the cop would most likly die the next night.  so i find that reasoning false. "

No one mentioned exposing the cop. What Wouter said was "saying they've been investigated", not "the cop is *name*, he/she investigated me".

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