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Topic: Liberals and hyperactive empathy

I have found that there is a connection between liberals, and a hyperactive empathy and commitment to aesthetically pleasing "oughts." "We ought to cure the world of injustice and make it just and fair for everyone!", and "zomg animals are suffering."

As for conservatives, there are two breeds. These two breeds may also interlap with one another.

The first breed is the kind of conservative who wants to conserve political, social and/or religious values (though usually connected) on the population, in an atmosphere that is becoming increasingly sexual, violent and dependent on mommy (the government).

The second kind of conservative is the goal orientated pragmatist. These kind of conservatives could be Machiavellians, you never know. All they are concerned with is that society and the economy function efficiently, they are passive to injustice, knowing that justice is a facade to power, they believe that pragmatic concerns are above moral ones, and they are often committed to advancing their own interests of wealth and power.

Now I just wanted to say one more thing. I think liberals and the first kind of conservative is a sick kind of human being, while the second kind of conservative is a healthy human being.

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Re: Liberals and hyperactive empathy

i think its a gross oversimplification.

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i also dont see why the second kind of conservative's morality based on efficiency makes them morally superior to the first kind of conservative.

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Well to be honest, I never met a committed liberal who didn't fit that model.

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thats because you define commited liberal as someone who fits that model. or maybe not exactly fit that model, but where there is little room for a committed liberal to differentiate them from that model.

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They aren't morally superior. They are healthy, mature and evolved human beings.

As for liberals, they are people who commit to liberal ideologies and describe them as such. I have observed the traits I described to be universally in them.

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7 Reply by avogadro (edited by avogadro 21-Dec-2008 20:41:53)

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i disagree. if you look unbiasedly at what is healthy, in nature what is healthy is a creatures's abillity to create offspring that will eventually create their own offspring. i think the 2nd kind of conservative, that rejects the morality of the society, the morality of christianity, to be less healthy then the 1st kind of conservative or a liberal.

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No no. The second kind of conservative is not committed to Christian morals or society's morals. They do what they need to do for wealth and power, giving pragmatic concerns priority over moral ones. If that means "play by the rules but really not," then they will.

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9 Reply by avogadro (edited by avogadro 21-Dec-2008 20:47:08)

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doing whatever it takes to gain wealth and power isnt healthy...

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Yes it is.

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it isnt socially healthy. it will decrease their chances to reproduce...

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That's why they have the hottest wives and many mistresses

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So Dick Cheney is a healthy, mature and evolved human being.
And Hillary Clinton is emphatic about injustice to animals.

The inmates are running the asylum

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hottness has nothing to do with it. the fact is that less then a percent of them are successful.

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> esa wrote:

> So Dick Cheney is a healthy, mature and evolved human being.
And Hillary Clinton is emphatic about injustice to animals.

They're both healthy. Hillary is really Machiavellian but pretends not to be.

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16 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 21-Dec-2008 21:23:54)

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> avo

> hottness has nothing to do with it. the fact is that less then a percent of them are successful.>

Dude. Women love men with money and power.

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> Justinian I wrote:

> > avo

> hottness has nothing to do with it. the fact is that less then a percent of them are successful.>

Dude. Women love men with money and power.


men who only care about money and power dont care about women smile

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> avogadro wrote:

men who only care about money and power dont care about women smile>>

Ahahahha! Nice play on words. I assume you can also say they don't care about nice cars or a nice home either.

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They don't have any real empathy, that's just the face they put on to get what they want.

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20 Reply by avogadro (edited by avogadro 22-Dec-2008 04:47:15)

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> Justinian I wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:

men who only care about money and power dont care about women smile>>

Ahahahha! Nice play on words. I assume you can also say they don't care about nice cars or a nice home either.


its not meant to be. nice cars and homes are products of money; loving relationships that create stable households where successful people are brought up is not a product of money or powerr.

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1st of all the women that care about nice homes and money are usually the girls that are good for sex but nothing else.
Basically hookers who are not honest enough to admit they are hookers.
Totally not what you need to fullfill your american picture of a family..

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"doing whatever it takes to gain wealth and power isnt healthy..."

agreed. If people were this way, then corruption would be rampant. I think the general moral conscience in the western world has made it as powerful as it is today. If you look at countries like India where your so called "healthy" people live, you can see that doing whatever it takes to get power and wealth isn't good for anyone. A "healthy" individual is one who strives for greater wealth and power but is constantly reminded not to take away the rights of other human beings. Especially life, liberty, and property.

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i love how someone said that Dick Cheney is healthy.  They have to hook the dude up to a car battery by the nipples after every meal.

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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What does it have to do with anything? Heart disease is what, THE number one killer in the USA? Big surprise a guy has heart problems? We should talk about it like it has anything to do with politics?

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it has everything to do with politics, those titties could hypnotize the masses into doing his bidding, all he has to do is jump around on a trampoline and we're all screwed

> Justinian I wrote:
> Ouro,
Even though you were the first one to arrive at the scene who clearly pwned Einstein and showed how biased he is, you are an outright arsehole.

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