Re: 12 Reasons Gay Marriage Will Ruin Society
You thought you were crushing all of the arguments against homosexual marraige.
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You thought you were crushing all of the arguments against homosexual marraige.
Gays and straights are just finicky bisexuals
Yeah, everyone knows we're all bisexual. I'm so enlightened.
>To those of you who are having a serious discussion
It sparked a discussion ![]()
a lot of social species have guy populations. It would surprise me if it has no "Darwin"-explanation. People who do not compete for sexual reproduction yet deliver service to a group seems perfectly logical to me.
Also notice how guy people have some (dis/ad)vantages and other interests as straight people. It might sound discriminating but it simply is that way.
I see no reason to compete if there were no sexual prize (of the female type)
you're equipped to function as a bisexual V.Kemp
you just don't wanna
finicky!
"People who do not compete for sexual reproduction yet deliver service to a group seems perfectly logical to me."
service as in dressing up like a school girl and taking it up the bum for 50$?
There are homosexuals because there are some genes that are beneficial to one gender and not for another, eg manifesting in homosexuality.
Anyway my argument against gay marriage is perfect and irrefutable. To say it more simply.
1. The only reasons for gay marriage are either as a formality or to give them equal benefits as heterosexual couples.
2. Legal marriage as strictly a matter of formality does not square with experience and would amount to pointless paperwork for the government.
3. When judging access to equal benefits, we need to test if gay couples satisfy the practical reasons that those benefits are given to straight couples. They fail that test.
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3. The reasons given for gay marriage do not work.
I then provided support for 2 and 3 to exhaust any counter arguments.
PWNED!
@Fokker:
What does your boyfriend think about your ideas on this topic?
East's post is disturbing
He quoted the price in dolllars :yikes:
@EAST
$45 or no go
But seriously, when a kid approaches parental unit and asks:
child: Parental unit where do babies come from?
parental unit: Well, a woman goes to the sperm bank after a man made a deposit....
lol @ yell. I do have a lot more thoughts on the subject (as avid a fan of the individual as I am; to each his own). a buddy asked me "what if it was your child?" once. puts it in perspective.
>>There are homosexuals because there are some genes that are beneficial to one gender and not for another...<<
Way to make a random statement without any logic to it!
For me gay is to marriage as gay is to porn.
> shipman wrote:
> @Fokker:
What does your boyfriend think about your ideas on this topic? <
At the moment I have no boyfriend, I have been with my [very understanding] girlfriend for 3-4 years now.
I have had "boyfriends" during this time though.
@han:
"I see no reason to compete if there were no sexual prize"
exactly. Which is why you have an extra workforce in the group with less internal struggle. Internal struggle is beneficial to a certain extent for the survival of the group but only to a certain extend.
> V.Kemp wrote:
Way to make a random statement without any logic to it!>>
Richard Dawkins agrees with me.
my hypothetical children will have learnt to obey me by the time they hit puberty, or they won't make it!
this kinda reminded me of this:
http://blaugh.com/cartoons/061201_real_undo_button.gif
@ Justinian 1
"There are homosexuals because there are some genes that are beneficial to one gender and not for another, eg manifesting in homosexuality.
Anyway my argument against gay marriage is perfect and irrefutable. To say it more simply.
1. The only reasons for gay marriage are either as a formality or to give them equal benefits as heterosexual couples.
2. Legal marriage as strictly a matter of formality does not square with experience and would amount to pointless paperwork for the government.
3. When judging access to equal benefits, we need to test if gay couples satisfy the practical reasons that those benefits are given to straight couples. They fail that test.
____
3. The reasons given for gay marriage do not work.
I then provided support for 2 and 3 to exhaust any counter arguments.
PWNED!"
There isn't only the whole benefits to marriage side of the story.. there's also happiness, and as a society providing people with the chance to be happy. To many gay people being discriminated against is a large source of unhappiness.
Disallowing gay marriage is also a message the government sends that being gay is NOT okay, at least it will be interpreted as such by a large number of people.
Add this to the fact that happy people are productive people, and this will probably outweigh any extra costs that would have to be made in the form of paperwork etc, and there goes your financial argument.
> To many gay people being discriminated against is a large source of unhappiness.
Read my post on page 1. No one is being descriminated against. If there was a law that said "People who are attracted to the same sex are not allowed to marry people of the opposite sex" Then I would agree with you.
If being unable to marry who you want to have sex with is discrimination, then what about these people?
NAMBLA, (Yes they're an actual group. They emerged and allied with LGBT groups. Those LGBT groups later renounced ties with them when NAMBLA became politically unfashionable. Really their attraction is no different then homosexuality. They're after same sex relationships, with children)
And Zoophiles. Love your pet? Love to have sex with it? Can't marry it? Unhappy about not being able to marry it? DISCRIMINATION!
yeah i remember when homosexuality was said to be legitimate BECAUSE it was a choice
then AIDS ended the free-love movement and too much sex became icky for secular reasons
so now "nobody chooses to be gay"
Ok i didn't even waste my time reading those ridiculous statements, it's not hard to take legit arguments and turn them into ironic statements of argumentative humor, does NOT change the value of the core legit arguement, and regardless of what you say :
The Anus is EXIT Only, if nature intended otherwise it would be self-lubricating as is the vagina, remember mother nature didn't know that today we could rely on Vasaline, KY, and AstroGlide. Sodomy with out lube is very dangerous and has results in death from tearing, and perforations - Thus not intended by nature.
The Penis is a shaft, the vagina is a (Self Lubricating) orphus, even children figure out when they are playing with the fischer price learning labs.. the square goes into the square hole, and the triangle, and circle likewise...
Now - I don't hate gays, i just don't want to know they exist...
Explain to me...
Why if i'm making out with my girlfriend in a public place, i get dirty looks, and asked to leave...
When Neuch can make out Avo - and people won't say or look out of fear of being labeled hateful, or Homophobic...
I don't care what Gay people do, but respect society like the Heterosexuals do - and leave it behind closed doors, it's NOT natural, and is NOT the way your body was designed to be used.. wanna misuse yourself? Don't educate children on how to do that same thing... - And keep it to yourself.
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