Topic: Canada's Government
Seems like the 2 party system might be better after all.
The biggest fool in the world is about to overthrow the government and become Prime Minister next week.
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Seems like the 2 party system might be better after all.
The biggest fool in the world is about to overthrow the government and become Prime Minister next week.
2 party system has it's flaws. Right now the Democrats are almost as right winged as the Republicans. The media doesn't like to show it, but the divide isn't that big, and because the American system can only work with 2 parties, it gives no leeway for other political parties to form. Some would call that undemocratic.
As for our system? I like it. It's like tossing a deck of cards into the air and seeing what lands where, especially during a minority like we have now. Going with the cards metaphor; we have a governor general (Queen of hearts) - symbolic figurehead with a symbolic role, but usually doesn't get too "uppity" due to pressure from the less loved (yet more powerful) king - Harper. Then you have Dion has the joker: will the joker continue to be comic relief for the king, or rise up and take his place. And what of the Queen's role? Will she help the joker usurp power?
Or course after that it's all just a game of numbers and public opinion. Harper has already launched Dion / coalition attack ads (yet again, we see the Conservatives showing off the skills of a good opposition party while trying to govern).
more like the Republicans are as commie as the Democrats
Only when relating the U.S. to itself, TheYell. Americans are as right-wing as they come compared to the rest of the world (Well, except for places like Iran...the irony).
Anyway, i've said it before and i'll say it again: DEMOCRACY DOESN'T WORK!
But meritocratic autocracy works great. The Romans tried that and had a succession of "5 good emperors."
how could that work in Ottawa? ![]()
well, if you're going to say certain systems work and others dont, then you have to say what the goal of government is, or what it should be.
Does anyone actually know what Han is talking about?
Edit: Oh I see...by overthrow the government, you don't actually mean overthrow in the conventional sense
You mean a coalition becoming the government.
Majority rule, my friend. Majority rule.
if stabillity is needed, then you need to appease the masses. the masses will overthrow the government if they dont think they have power and by masses, i dont mean the majority, but simply, a large group of people. in every form of government, certain groups wont have power at any one time. the current way to create stability and appease these groups is by giving them the chance to govern. the democratic process's beauty isnt giving everyone a equal say in government, because people dont have an equal say in governemnt, the beauty is making people that are dissatisfied with the government believe that it can change without a rebellion, and no rebellion is needed.
> Theodora wrote:
> Does anyone actually know what Han is talking about?
Canada elected Bush for when Bush steps down as US president? ![]()
Government exists because there's demand for the services it provides, and it uses the structure and resources it acquires by doing such in order to expand and exercise its power.
A government of a state where the political, economic and social structures are unable to supply demand will be threatened in favor of one that promises to deliver. That is why Hitler came to power, and that is why the Communism declined.
There is nothing government ought to do. But a necessary component of a successful government is an ability to efficiently satisfy public demand, and empower and direct the economic and social structures to also satisfy demand.
government exists because people try to control others. and they create a demand for services they can provide that the current form isnt, inorder to gain power.
and satisfying public demand might of been doable when countries had less pop, less educated pop, and worse communication, but nowadays, appeasing everyone is impossible. the best way to stay off rebellion is to give the other groups an opportunity to gain power via democratic elections.
> avogadro wrote:
> government exists because people try to control others. and they create a demand for services they can provide that the current form isnt, inorder to gain power.
and satisfying public demand might of been doable when countries had less pop, less educated pop, and worse communication, but nowadays, appeasing everyone is impossible. the best way to stay off rebellion is to give the other groups an opportunity to gain power via democratic elections.>>
Eh. Well the advantage of having political power is the ability to control others. But rebellion really isn't an issue if you have the media regulated, and are able to adequately administrate public services and manage the economy and diplomacy. People just don't get up and rebel because they disagree with government on ideological issues, they do it because they're hungry or fed up with neglect and inefficiency.
theres long drawn out rebellions where the masses fight to against soliders. and then theres small rebellions, where a small number of people use the aspect of surprise to quickly kill the heads of state. the 2nd kind isnt done by peasants. its organized and paid for by wealthy, power-hungry individuals and doesnt need a large number of the population to support them.
I believe Canada should run a referendum for all provinces except Quebec asking whether we should kick Quebec out of the country.
Its time to set the welfare state free.
Also, the main reason the socialists, communists and anarchists are trying to take over government is because the current government tried to bankrupt them by putting a stop to public financing for all political parties.
Their first order of business will be to give $30B (around 26B USD) to auto companies and forrestry idiots.
The US congress debates for weeks then give $25B, Canada replaces the government so we can give 10 times more than we were asked for.
LOL
yeh our government sucks
LOL and dion is even worse ![]()
but meh they don't have any say in anything anyways
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Well, the PM said a few words on TV.
The Turkey that leads the opposition demanded equal TV time (just like the PM hoped) and after showing up an hour late made a mess of it all (just like the PM expected)
Well planned.
Now they only need a dozen idiots to get scared and it all falls to pieces.
You have anarchists in Canada?
Cool!
so if I understand it, the opposition was gonna have a coup d'etat, but then the PM got wtih the Gee-Gee and got his coup d'etat mojo flowing, and there was a cross-coup mojonation going on
the Quebecois should have the Queen fly out herself and depose the Gee-Gee and then resume Parliament on a Sunday so they can vote out the PM
or they'll just have a beer and a smoke, eh
I'm quoting from Austin Powers!
nah in CA dialect you'd hear the F-bomb more often
> The Yell wrote:
> nah in CA dialect you'd hear the F-bomb more often
even with old bastards like you?
The happenings in Canada remind me of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dismissal
But seriously, whats up with all of these third world countries anyway? Zimbabwe, Thailand, Canada and the rest just cannot seem to get their act together and run a stable government.
Next we will be hearing of airport sit-ins in Toronto or Cholera outbreaks in Ottawa.
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