Re: Why do muslims do what they do?

Muslim riots are quite funny.Whats the problem?

The inmates are running the asylum

27 (edited by East 28-Nov-2008 12:55:03)

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"Rooster. Muhammad did not order the "join or die" meaning of Jihad."

exactly, he also gave the third option of paying him a tax

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Re: Why do muslims do what they do?

"Some people can afford to go there. Last i checked Denmark was still in Europe. And to add to that there are muslims in Denmark and I'm sure there were a few pissed although they would form a minority."

are you saying that they should go to Denmark and kill this guy? and also i know Denmark is in Europe, just pointing out that riots were happening all over Europe. Also, if the imams and the ones who rioted had any knowledge, that guy was protected by the denmark constitution. He has the right to freedom of press and freedom of speech. Did they think that if they riot the denmark constitution will be changed to not allow muhammad's face being printed anywhere?

29 (edited by The Yell 28-Nov-2008 16:58:37)

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This is that the cartoon artists knew that they were breaking an important muslim tradition and they then mocked him aswell. No I do not advocate the killing of people. But they should take responsibility for their actions. When a newspaper uses a picture of someone that they dont want published they apologize. The danish said [no obscenity] I CAN DO THIS HAHAHAHAHA. In a way atleast

"that guy was protected by the denmark constitution"

Just because rape is legal in one country does it make it so that you cannot feel outraged when your citizens get raped there?

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

30 (edited by avogadro 28-Nov-2008 14:41:23)

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you all are just as bad as the others. making sweeping generalizations about what type of muslims do the things most people in the western world object to. the simple fact of the matter is there was muslims from every background doing it. Islam, like the west promotes violence. And theres selfish assholes in both groups namely politicians, generals, soliders, and terrorists that use the differences between the two cultures to gain glory.


also, someone said something about Catholics being homophobic, while they're probably one of the least homophobic sects of christianity. the only problem Catholics have with gays is gay sex not being able to create offspring and without a chance of offspring, they consider sex immoral, they dont really consider gay sex any worse then acouple having sex using birth control. and they dont think anything bad about gays that dont have sex.  they also consider sex an integral part of marriage, so they dont endorse gay marriage either.

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Nice one Arocalex.  U state it's inaccurate but give no reasoning of your "wisdom".  U'r as believable as the rest of the prattling religious fools.

"They do not hold much autorety like the pope or whatever, they should only preach what the Koran says.  But I'm thinking thats just how they interpreted it."

of course they hold a lot of authority - they are who the majority of the under-educated look to for guidance, as the clergy used to be for the catholic church before the bible was translated into the language of the common man.  The point of such religious figure-heads is to guide the masses due to their "higher knowledge" of the faith.

You "think" that's how they interpreted it?.  Religion's all about interpretation.  There's nothing else it can be when the entire concept of faith is to believe in something that can't be proved.

Think a bit harder nxt time..

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"they are who the majority of the under-educated look to for guidance"
Maybe if it wasent for hundreds of years of turmoil they wouldn't be so undereducated. The west created a 'monster' they can now no longer control. Still speaking of the minority here.


"You "think" that's how they interpreted it?.  Religion's all about interpretation.  There's nothing else it can be when the entire concept of faith is to believe in something that can't be proved."

I can't know their reason of thought now can I? Its all about freedom of speech, those imams can say whatever they want, they can too print whatever they want. But that does not make it true. So don't start complaining about what they say. It is the people under them that listen to them, people driven to a corner that now bite back. And other well educated persons that get the profit out of it.

Avo, I am a muslim btw tongue.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

33 (edited by CanadianTire 28-Nov-2008 16:25:11)

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Yell. why haven't you closed this? It's clearly inciting hate. look at the last sentence of the original post?

If someone wishes to have a serious discussion about radical Muslims (instead of lumping all Muslims together) they should do so without posting hateful messages.

"In a world of global deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

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its not radical when a large amount does it canadian hockey lover..muslims=bad news.

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Ok, going back to Muslims.

So they bombed and killed people based on their religious discrepancies. Whether its because their 'idol' was depicted, or they want to rid the world of the 'white devil (for want of better term..'


Sounds like just another religion.

As far as Im concerned dont ask questions of something you can't understand.

Its no fun until someone dies.
Cos I need to watch things die.

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close this?

don't be silly.  u have to be able to discuss such things - the problem with the western world is that we cannot discuss these things without the "racist" and "hate" slurs being thrown.  A discussion requires both parties' input, otherwise how is there going to be any progress?

One of the world's greatest thinkers famously said:

"I don't believe what you say is right but I'll defend with my life your right to say it".  You can't change the mind of someone who holds an ignorant opinion by stopping them from speaking.  That's call a dictatorship.

"I can't know their reason of thought now can I? Its all about freedom of speech, those imams can say whatever they want, they can too print whatever they want. But that does not make it true"

Again, words like "true" are irrelevant here Arcolex.  A Muslim u might be, therefore u have a "belief" and what u believe might be right.  However, it might also not be.

"The west created a 'monster' they can now no longer control."
Are u talking of the shadow of capitalism here again?  Even if u are, not it matters not.  Whilst we in Western Europe were still using clubs and grunting (ok, allow a little artistic licence here), countries many centuries before the advent of Mohammed had "created" this monster.  The Persians in fact had the first civilisation that took advantage of this, so as much as the rest of he world like to try and incite ill-will towards Europe for the world's problems, they were around a long time before we eveb started playing the game.
Admittedly, we have exacerbated them, but cannot be accorded the responsibility of creating them I'm afraid.

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muslims=bad news.

Neuch, the only bad news here is u.  The only saving grace that might be out there for u is that u'r deliberately trying to come across as an idiot.

Yup, that'll be the only saving grace

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"also, someone said something about Catholics being homophobic, while they're probably one of the least homophobic sects of christianity. the only problem Catholics have with gays is gay sex not being able to create offspring and without a chance of offspring, they consider sex immoral, they dont really consider gay sex any worse then acouple having sex using birth control. and they dont think anything bad about gays that dont have sex.  they also consider sex an integral part of marriage, so they dont endorse gay marriage either."'


Wow, new news to me.
Catholicism being commonly regarded as the fundamental basis on which all other forms of xtianity are based, I thought it would be the other way around.. Unless its a new faction of course.. which is thus changing the traditionalistic ideals of the Catholic faith striping it of what little credit it had left.

Its no fun until someone dies.
Cos I need to watch things die.

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"Admittedly, we have exacerbated them, but cannot be accorded the responsibility of creating them I'm afraid."

Atleast we agree that the rising hate was not completely fault of the religion.

And Neuch, why don't you leave the debating to the grown ups and go crawl back to your own playground. Your arguments have no basis that i have read.

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

40 (edited by The Yell 28-Nov-2008 20:03:25)

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they have basis if u do ur research...too bad [you] dont.

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"Atleast we agree that the rising hate was not completely fault of the religion"
The birth of hatred has little if anything to do with religion.  It's just become a convenient vessel.

Lol, Arcolex, I've had this discussion with many people of many religions.  I think u'll find we'd agree with more things than not.  I agree with many of the basic tenants of Islam, as i do with Christianity.  Is the proselytising of any religion which gets me, be it Mormon or Muslim.
 

I couldn't care if people believe in Allah or Hulk Hogan - whatever makes u happy.

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what a shocker...what did the muslims in mumbai do?

oh yeah, they bombed several hotels in addition to holding innocent people hostage in a jewish community center, then the muslims KILLED THEM ALL.

What a shocker!  NOT

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what was that noise?

ah, nothing. 

just the wind blowing

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You are confusing muslims with crazy people

Not many people know this, but I own the first radio in Springfield. Not much on the air then, just Edison reciting the alphabet over and over. "A" he'd say; then "B." "C" would usually follow...

Re: Why do muslims do what they do?

Somebody can found a religion that says wearing shoes is the Devil

fine

just don't come after MY shoes

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Higher Auzority decrees that discussions of religion and political systems are necessary!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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since when was i confusing crazy people with muslims? they are one in the same

Re: Why do muslims do what they do?

what a shocker...what did the muslims in mumbai do?

oh yeah, they bombed several hotels in addition to holding innocent people hostage in a jewish community center, then the muslims KILLED THEM ALL.

What a shocker!  NOT

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why are you repeating?

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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because the size of brain he obviously possesses and the ensuing limited ability to think allows only a small number of thoughts to be active at the same time. 

He's obviously reached the zenith of his thinking.


and now Neuch  - which, by the way, rhymes ominously with Deutsch - goes blah blah blah