No stresss...

Lipton: How do you expect to win any war against a bigger fam if your not supposed to raid bankers? I take it nuking bankers and killing pop is dishonorable as well then?

Small fams need to stop hiding behind this "honor code" and learn to adopt proper strategies and tactics that give advantages to small fams. Thats the only way to improve, the more small fams learn to adapt to their situation and defend properly, the less people will farm smaller families.

Ofc though the experienced players are all drafted to the top fams so all the smaller fams don't really have the knowledge to win against large families but thats a totally different problem.

Ash, we're all around

And of course I still love you buddy

"Lipton: How do you expect to win any war against a bigger fam if your not supposed to raid bankers? I take it nuking bankers and killing pop is dishonorable as well then?"

Raiding bankers during a war has nothing to do with being dishonourable. This is about raiding bankers because you took max 10 planets from a family. Raiding bankers of a small fam is usually not very hard, because they have less experience in defending. So, top fams *might* abuse that situation and steal *some* planets off a small fam. You dont really get the entire idea, do you? It's about a REGULAR CONFLICT, not about a WAR.

its all nice but in the end this is the game........ i am in a very small fam right now we been getting hit by at lest 5 top fams lol one of them i even took a few portals from

but in the end they can jump and i cant .......... me in a small fam will always lose its the way of the world the ic world that is hehe

but for a small fam losing planets is normal to bigger ones not sure why its here in the UN though but  since it is going to rip some ass hehe

lmao when i last left these forums its seem this was also the topic lol that was 2 years ago hahaha

People can we calm down? Ill be happy to discuss this with u here or in game msgs or on mirc/msn, but to go off flaming non stop is out of control and I cant believe the mods have allowed so much bs over the past 2 days.

Lipton and imperial u2 especially need to sit back, relax and go outside for a walk to clam down then come back and rethink things. Your going ballistic over things you started.

Imperial our fam does not need to make a name for ourselves. with Me/kagar/winme/orbit/speedyjerry it in we alone have won 70+ rounds combined and thats not counting our other fam mates of which everyone is an important part. Orbit does not need to prove himself to u or anyone nor is tyring. He has been the #1 attacker this round in capri hands down. I'm not gonna argue with u over this, hes been our main attacker that busts portals, uses his head and gains p's when removing enemies. Ironic enough we got another great attacker named kagar that u might know? Hes not too shaby either:) Then we have footy and pitbul who we just met this round and are also doing great, so we got 4 damn active camaars atm and that will always= bad for other fams. 5 of us have played under the name of m00lar/playboys in the past. We won rounds in pw/tri/andro/mw and broke up 2 yrs ago. Orbit is the same in a small fam as he is in a big fam. He does not whine and just plays. If u think otherwise then u dont know him or your just delusional.

This nonsense that were not allowed to touch anyone and yet there allwoed to touch us and our bankers is bs. I can post just from the last few days the planets our bankers lost cause we were HIT 1ST cause medium or small fams had 1-2 p's in systems we totally controled. We go, take the planets back+ push the attacker away from the system and we get msgs non stop in game and whine threads in uni news. Imperial u want me to show the attacks u did on our banker that provoked kagar to attack u? I can show ours just as u can show yours. We lost 130++ well ob banker planets this round, if u guys stop targeting our bankers and us then maybe some of u would have less problems?

ANother thing is diplomacy. I have asked these guys earlier in round to pls nap any small fam requesting a nap and they have and will continue to do so. If u dont request a nap then orbits orders to other attackers and to himself is to clear anyone that is within your nw that u share and if they touch our bankers u teach them a lesson.

  We have fams ranked from 4th to 30th whinning to us non stop, whinning on uni news, maken excuses and lies up. We show prove that their lieing and they still continue to lie.

277 from #1451
57 from #1454
36 from #1437
34 from #1434
32 from #1433
21 from #1449
19 from #1429
16 from #1424
13 from #1419
12 from #1455
11 from #1426
8 from #1421
7 from #1430
5 from #1457
5 from #1443
4 from #1417
4 from #1440
2 from #1423
2 from #1422
1 from #1435
1 from #1420
1 from #1444
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We overwhelmed the enemy 568 times. 22 families and 400 planet(s) involved.
We actually gained 337 planet(s) in total. Unfortunately they managed to retake 63

190 to #1451
27 to #1454
25 to #1424
13 to #1449
8 to #1430
7 to #1429
5 to #1419
5 to #1417
2 to #1420
1 to #1435
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We have been beaten 283 times. 10 families and 182 planets involved.
We actually lost 88 planet(s) in total. At least we were able to retake 94.

thats our fam news from last yr and so far from this yr.

Kagar is not a bad person either as some of u make him out to be all the time. If u piss him off or do bad to the fam hes in then he will remmeber u and if given the opportunity he will pay u back 2x. There is no hard feelings with any of us in a new round as we start clean, however during the round we play to clear people were not naped and dont forget bs that was done to us and do pay backs later. 37/46/51/28 and others were among the fams finding this out. However 28 were a much nicer fam and 37 werent too bad themselves.

We had a very hard time this round, no one was allowing us out of our core, people were attacking kagar and orbit 8 camaar ticks from their closes portal, people were attacking us non stop while we were in war, people were declaring war on us with their ally for 2v1, we got opped, we got banker raided and we played a fair straight up round and were the bad guys because were #1 in size by far?

Last round some of us got back together and hanged out, we were 31st ranked fam and people said we were washed up n00bs. We played for fun and to relax. We beat 1 top 5 fam early in round, we also pushed out the #1 fam which was bahas at the time from our area and we brought down the mighty 1055 who were #1 in nw/size and score when they thought they were gonna farm us. U didnt see us whinning last round, heck we taunted the top fams.

Also last round all of u said how boring the round was, how there is no one left to play good and how the gal needs to get more aggressive and more wars.

Well we brought it and u guys whine, we got maybe the best spread in the gal and can attack almost anyone from any place minus a few fams who hide up in their core. Last round everyone played in their core and u bitched, so now we play outside of it and u bitch?.

Lipton and Imperial I ask u to take a walk and calm down, come back and recheck your fam news, see who did what and be sure to note the bankers u attacked then come back here and talk to me. If u havent pissed kagar/orbit off to much I can get u and any small fam a nap.

This talk of how ic has changed and how your all deleting and leaving ic again is baby talk. U cant play a conflict game, go out and do something over your head then whine to everyone and bash us or any other top fam for something u started..

asher1 how are u doing? i hope u have a good Holiday. I came back to ic last round and am playing atm, but not sure for how long. good day

Again - The you started it crap, and using that prefix out of context.

This is what your saying

A 5 year old walks up to you, and takes your cookie, while your back is turned - You see him with it, so you walk over there and punch the kid severally injuring it, and your excuse is "He started it, when he took my cookie".

The intent, and action of such does NOT warrant such an extreme response, using such excessive force only shows that your dishonorable, and your intent is do personally attack someone on a social level, and not just within the game.

Not 1 message from 31 asking us to stop retakes... if they did we coulda came to an agreement..

HAHA PP damm dude i missed your post i see u put together another power house fam lol

why even bother no one around to give u guys trouble must be  boring .... from what i seen sofar the rest of the top 10 dont seem to match up at all

is there another fam u would consider a challenge

and we not so lucky are thanking giving was in oct  but i hope yours go well

It's Aww kay.

Imperial U didnt do what I asked u to do yet. Plz go for a short walk to calm down and smell the fresh air ok?

I dont know everything that is going on, Im a banker that has been away alot the past 5 days. I was told about all the talk about 31 and 27 having an illegal alliance last night and checked it out. I dont evan know what rank your fam is.

I'll be happy to show u our nap list if u want also, we have had mercy on alot of fams and out of the current top 10 fams we have 4 naps of which 3 of them we fought, 1451 being the most recent.

Have u asked for a nap without maken threats? The msg u sent winme, u not only asked for us to stop, but u demanded compensation from a fam u got no nap with. How do u think thats gonna happen?

Honestly Imperial just calm down and rethink things through cause your not sounding too good atm.

I rather be on friendly terms with u and these other people then on bad terms and I know our attackers did nothing wrong other then clear attackers from shares and or go after attackers who just attacked our bankers.

1440 is a good example of why rest of u others have to be cleared and suffer. They kept getting a small nw attacker into our core all round and we kept clearing them, as soon as we let our guard down he gets into 2 systems, jumps fleet and takes 30 banker p's while we were in war with another fam.

I know u didnt see anyone in my fam whine about that or whine about the other half dozen bs moves done to us this round